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you're listening to Ira the inception

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are you ready for an epic journey the

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extraordinary phenomenon investigations

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council presents epic voyages come join

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us as we enter and experience their

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great mysteries of the world with

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tonight's host Aaron Jenkins AKA

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tell me now

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and welcome back to epic voyages radio

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this is maverick your host for tonight's

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show we have an excellent lineup for you

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tonight at Sharon and Gilbert at Derek

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Gilbert I'm so sorry sir is our guest

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but before we get to them welcome back

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from the holidays and Christmas and the

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new year I hope that you had a very

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special holiday season with your your

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friends and family I know on this end it

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has been as always with holidays it goes

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by very fast and it's very chaotic at

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times so glad to be with you in this new

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year 2015 we have some great things

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lined up for you this year here at epic

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make sure you go to the website at epic

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voyageurs com for the latest info and

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guest lineup that we have there and

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regarding what I've been doing here in

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the valley of the giants here in the

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Texas Hill Country very exciting things

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are happening behind the scenes and I'm

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hoping that I can reveal more

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information to you later but I can tell

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you that that I'm we've been really

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working closely with some with some

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producers for a possible TV series that

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is still all in discussions at this

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current time and I think in the next

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coming months we'll know something it's

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going to be very exciting so I need you

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to go to Erin Judkins calm so we can

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have your input and and voice your

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opinion about what you want to see so if

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you go to Erin Judkins calm there's

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going to be a pull on the on the website

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and just go to the pole and then just

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vote for what you would like to see

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regarding a new TV series so

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lots of neat things are happening I wish

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I could tell you more i just-i can't--

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it's really bugging me but I but some

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really great possibilities coming down

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the pike for for old maverick here also

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don't forget the the film the

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documentary film Finding Noah is coming

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out this year now we still don't have a

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release date but as soon as we do I

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promise that I will get that up on the

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website at Aaron Jenkins calm in all the

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social media outlets so we're going to

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we're going to have a really really

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great lineup for 2015 this movie will be

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now we did have the the screening for

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finding Noah and Dallas back in December

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for the cast and crew and so I got to

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see it for the first time kind of a

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rough draft of the film if you will it's

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unnerving at times when you when you

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realize it you know you're up there and

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everybody's you know seeing this you

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know this a blue you know rag I have on

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my head it's it's quite quite funny and

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on but we are going to be pushing this

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film out so we really need your input by

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the way I need you to go to facebook.com

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forward slash finding Noah if you go to

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the finding Noah website finding

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nola.com that will be linked up on there

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but we really need about three hundred

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thousand likes on finding nila facebook

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so you can do that that would be awesome

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and help spread the word for us on that

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and Sharon is a Christian author she has

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written a number of books one of which

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is Armageddon strain and the winds of

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evil she has contributed to nonfiction

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titles such as God's ghostbusters pen

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ammonium zengin and blood on the altar

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you can find her websites at Sharon Kay

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Gilbert calm Sharon Kay Gilbert com or

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Gilbert house dot org tonight we're

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talking about Ebola and the fourth

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Horseman of the Apocalypse this was a

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release back in November 2014 and this

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is really delves into the West African

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Ebola epidemic which dominated the news

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cycles during them most of the summer

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and fall of 2014 sharon has studied

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prophecy for over 50 years she brings

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her background and molecular biology to

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bear on how Ebola might actually be

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mentioned in the book of Revelation

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expanding on her groundbreaking

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presentation at the Pikes Peak prophecy

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summit Sharon presents her compelling

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case that the GNAT toes the angel of

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death who rides the fourth horse in

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revelation 6 has given permission to use

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biological weapons and therein begins

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the hellish ride of Ebola so her book

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offers an open but hopeful presentation

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on how Ebola emerged in 1976 and what

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this means for us today so also with

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Sharon is her husband and Derek and

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Derek is author in his own right and and

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has done a multiple multitude of writing

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as well so please help me welcome both

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Sharon and Derek well thank you very

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very much maverick good grief I didn't

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know you were called maverick oh I think

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that's super cool welcome thanks for

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having us dr. maverick well thanks for

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being on with blue thanks for being on

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the show

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so you know we have you know I guess

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back a couple of years ago you guys have

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an internet show that you do and you had

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maybe twice regarding some some of the

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work that I've done and that's when i

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first got familiar with with your work

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and and I've been following that ever

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this book on Ebola and the the fourth

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Horseman of the Apocalypse it really

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really caught my attention by the way

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the cover is is really awesome I don't

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know whose yeah I don't who did that but

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that's very very well done well shout

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out to Daniel who works for of defender

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publishing and he's the one did that wow

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he is cool now Derek did you have were

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you did you call write the book with

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Sharon or or did you just do all the

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research for I don't neither this this

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this no no this is a topic it's way

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above my pay grade no no actually if

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you're wondering why he's in on the

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discussion it's because to be honest

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with you I have fibromyalgia and I have

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to go to bed early every night early for

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me is going to bed at seven Central Time

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eight until ten anytime I have a late

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interview I always ask Derek to come in

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because he helps to keep me awake and

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keeps me motivated and besides he and I

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are so used to talking to each other

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doing PID radio from now for 10 years

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he's done vft be he can talk is he could

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talk all day if you had to so i know

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that if i start to flag then he's going

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to you know i'll tag team him and he'll

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come flashing it right so you can talk

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about anything and everything because

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two hours is a long time to talk about

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an epidemic that that praise the lord is

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waning yes and i'm happy to see it and i

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don't know what's again you just talk a

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little bit about you know exactly what

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Ebola is is it you know i know there was

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virus but other than that can you tell

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us about how Ebola started and why it's

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so infectious well I can tell you first

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of all though it was discovered by

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Western man and named in 1976 when it

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broke out in what we now call Congo it

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was I here at the time it broke out in a

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very small village there were I think I

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can't honestly remember the number of

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the deaths i think it was under a

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hundred but it was at that time i think

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fatal depending on how you got it

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especially got it because they were

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actually injected with it now that

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sounds sounds like a conspiracy but the

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truth is that they were cross infected

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needles there were patient the patient

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they didn't know the nuns didn't know it

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now patient zero infected these needles

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they only had five needles period in

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this little Hospital five needles and

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men and even today a lot of the men go

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into the big cities to work because

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stay back in the villages and they tend

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the farms they take care of the kids and

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pregnant because they are taking care of

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other kids and they're taking care of

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the farming and the home and and they

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walk for water I mean they work hard

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they need a lot of energy so these women

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walking to the hospital which was quite

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a walk and they would stand in line

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sometimes 300 of them a day would line

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up for vitamin B shots because these

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vitamin B shots were the Kuril they were

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the miracle jab that kept these women

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going and these cross infected needles

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were infecting people with Ebola and the

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nurses didn't know it because it was

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just a mystery to them at that time

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science that was just learning about him

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what it how did how did that I mean did

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it come from like another you know like

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some kind of like a flu strain from

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another animal like we've heard about

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cross cross contaminator from another

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animal animal population well first of

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all it's a filovirus it's not an

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influenza virus it's a it's a different

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family of viruses it's a very unique

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family of viruses that only has three

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members it's a follow very day as the

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name of the family and it has Ebola it

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has Marburg and what's called cueva

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virus which means cave virus cave of

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cueva virus hasn't really infected many

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people in an outbreak so you never hear

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about it Marburg is actually worse than

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Ebola so let's pray Marburg never breaks

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there's something worse than Ebola yeah

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Marburg it's what is that business it's

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more infectious heads it's also a

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hemorrhagic fever virus so you have this

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hallmark sign of bleeding out which by

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the way the Ebola virus said broke out

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in West Africa has appeared to mutate

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and so they've changed it from Ebola

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hemorrhagic fever virus to Ebola virus

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disease because the bleeding out sign

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the virus is definitely mutating but

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that's not good well it can be good if

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it mutates to where it's less infectious

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if you kill your host you don't get to

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multiply very much as a rule but Ebola

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is so incredibly infectious that it

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one drop of blood could have you a 1

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million Ebola virus particles in it one

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I do Ilya it always it only takes about

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five fires particles to infect you no

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kidding okay now now we were this is all

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news to me because because now we have

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such an innocent

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you know vitamin you know vitamin shots

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being given the 1976 and and now all

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this thing is yeah now how come how come

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it hasn't how come it hasn't you know

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escalated since 1976 oh is if we don't

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hear about it and then all sudden boom

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you know in 2014 no no it's all over the

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place it's broken out about every four

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or five years there's an outbreak in the

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Sudan area of Africa the West Africa

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outbreak is brand new for that area but

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about every three four or five years

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there's an outbreak but they're always

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really small this one is huge because

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it's in big cities all of the others

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were in little villages I see when

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there's no there's no people together

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the more people are going to get sick

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yeah and there's no cure for this no now

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now white why did you write your book on

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on this subject because it obviously it

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caught your interest on something in

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particular about what this thing is as a

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matter of fact Sharon ID do you call it

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the blood serpent or is that a term that

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has been given to it how to determine

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serpent be associated with with Ebola

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well a scientist who follow and study

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Ebola have called it snakes for a long

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time when they see the virus in under

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their microscope they will often shout

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out this we've got snakes or we've got

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worms we've got ropes because they look

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like that they look like twisted rope or

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snakes curling in and on itself Marburg

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tends to be more linear with a little

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round what's called a cheerio at the end

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but it also can sometimes look like a

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twisty snake and that's what's on the

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front cover of your book is that that's

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the actual article yeah yeah a lot of

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blood serpent because it it seems to

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make the body issue forth all sorts of

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blood which traditionally has been an

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occult signal because if you look into

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the history of the supernatural realm

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there's a strong desire for the shedding

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of blood hmm

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huh so how do you how do you get an

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Ebola is it is it to contact is it

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through through error that you know

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respiratory droplets how does exactly

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the desist transmitted Ollie above

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really goes through the air it can go

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through the air on droplets there's a

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big difference between being carried on

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an air current and being expelled from

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someone's mouth in droplets right same

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drops of saliva can have you know

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hundreds of thousands of virus particles

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just as well as a drop of blood and if i

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were to sneeze into your face you might

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get it because it would go into your

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nose your mouth your eyes and it might

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be just enough to to catch in your body

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and suddenly you have ebola too that's

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why if you work with Ebola patients you

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should wear a mask of some kind they

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have those plastic shields or actually

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the hood is usually what they pull over

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their heads over top of the bees one of

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the things that disturbed us during the

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height of the outbreak which back in

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October we talked about on our program

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PID radio was that the federal

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government was telling people that you

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had to come into contact with exactly

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that kept saying oh no no no no somebody

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sneezes you can't catch it that way yeah

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and the head of the Center for

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infectious disease research and policy

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or Sid wrap gave a public statement last

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round yes in which he said no that's not

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exactly correct he gave a talk that was

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recorded and played on c-span so of

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course nobody saw it except Sharon it

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said that the current virus may be more

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likely to spread through aerosols

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through the air than strains a

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previously encountered but his point was

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that if somebody sneezes Yuri you're not

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actually sneezing and aerosolized virus

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you're sneezing little water droplets

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and of course those are bodily fluids

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and those come into contact with say the

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handle on the the bus seat that you may

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grab as you stand up or sit down so in

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effect the information that was being

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given up by the government was

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absolutely 180 degrees wrong you didn't

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have to come to physical contact with

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blood or other bodily fluids from

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someone in fact and you can catch

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from a surface which they finally

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admitted exactly and that was that was

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the second part of the point there you

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could inhale the aerosolized droplets of

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somebody sneezing and of course if you

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touch the surface on which someone had

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sneezed it had not been cleaned and

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sterilized if it had been clean and

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sterilize or somebody who had sweated

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you know the wipes out so yeah it was

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more infectious than we were being told

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and if you are quote unquote curative

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Ebola in other words you survived the

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disease you are infectious via sex let's

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just put it that way you can excrete the

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virus in your semen or vaginal

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secretions for six months for six months

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almost six months you know that doesn't

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surprise me that the government was

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wrong on this but you know because

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actually we don't really know that much

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about Ebola I mean it's not like you

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know polio that they've known something

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for a long time and you know and and it

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virtually eradicated polio this disease

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is viruses is relatively new yeah that

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relatively new to humans but the theory

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is that the virus actually is really

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really old as in hundreds of thousands

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of years old if you if you go by Old

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Earth numbers all right but at the very

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least it goes back to the dawn of time

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whenever that is well so this has been

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around but they just it's never

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contaminated humans before up until

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nineteen seventy six that wait that's

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been documented well there's a theory

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that the Black Plague was actually a

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hemorrhagic fever virus all very

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interesting and even even before that

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was at the EO there was a the Trojans of

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the Greeks who had a big plague the

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ancient Greeks had a plague and I'm

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enough to go but I'm gonna have to go

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back and read your book again it's been

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a while since I wrote it I wrote that

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book very very quickly and one of the

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reasons that I did so you know there are

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some people say oh you just wanted to

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capitalize on on what was going on in

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the news and that isn't true I just

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wanted to get the truth out there as

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quickly as possible because I'd been

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following Ebola for about 10 years oh no

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kiddin yeah exactly when I first when I

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first read

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um oh gosh the book hot zone yeah

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Dresden which I I just suddenly thought

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this is crazy what where have I not

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heard about this virus and from that

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point on I started really kind of

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watching as the internet evolved and

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grew more populated with information

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information I kept that on my radar via

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email alerts so any time there was an

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Ebola story Google would send me a

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little note right yeah this is the

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plague of Athens in 430 BC believe it or

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not that's a long time yeah this was

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during the just a brief history lesson

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during the Peloponnesian War when Athens

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was at war with Sparta there's some

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selection that uh that Ebola was

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actually the cause well wow that that

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that is very interesting I like the the

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out of the box you know ideas about this

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because you know this just didn't come

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out of thin air 1976 in the fact that

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the government really didn't know all

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that much about it but it makes it sound

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like that they do it's not is not that

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surprising that all is it then and we

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know look at what was going on in West

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Africa now mind you I am NOT saying this

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is how it happened but there were

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laboratories operating in Liberia and in

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Sierra Leone several years before the

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outbreak began in West Africa and they

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were studying this was emory university

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working with mmm nih i think yeah and

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and there may have been a third partner

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maybe a drug company but they were

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taking a look at Lassa virus which is a

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hemorrhagic fever virus it's not in the

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family with ebola and marburg gets a

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different family of viruses but it has a

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blood component to it too and they were

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taking a look at ways to prevent that

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but at the same time in their labs they

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were studying Ebola that's on record so

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when the the outbreak began in West

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Africa one of the first things that the

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leaders of those countries did in

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Liberia and Sierra Leone

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is cut the they said shut down those

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labs now wow wow long history of

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distrust between people in Africa and

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health workers especially health workers

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coming from foreign nations well in fact

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there were several priests who were

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beaten up just last week because they

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went into spray for mosquitoes I think

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hmm and and and and and what happened

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well they wouldn't you gosh was again II

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I think they went into spray for

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mosquitoes and they were beaten up by

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local villagers maybe cuz they thought

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they were fighting disease exactly there

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is a presumption that and that's one

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reason that it's been really difficult

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for them World Health Organization to

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say here what the numbers are because a

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lot of the villagers they don't want to

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go to the hospitals because they believe

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that's where its spread so if they start

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feeling sick they're not going to go and

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they don't want their family to go well

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there's a whole perception there that

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has to be overcome it what I not you

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know it's it's true in America when when

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you go to the hospital and you you go in

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for one reason and then you all of a

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sudden have a secondary infection whew

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that's called a no skomal infection

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that's it affection inquired while

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you're at the hospital that you picked

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up at the hospital and and that can you

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know now you got your problem plus you

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got another secondary infection and so

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when you when you populate people either

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in hospitals or villages or whatever it

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doesn't really matter because you know

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you have a mass population that that

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disease can go to and I always wondered

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how they could be they begin the

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government can be so confident that it

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wasn't spread by respiratory droplets

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yeah or or by surface because a lot of

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these healthcare workers professionals

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were Donny masks gloves and doing

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everything that you know they do yet we

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know of several nurses

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and two of the doctors that came down

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with this yeah that doesn't ones that we

534
00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:35,640
know about there have been a lot of

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doctors who have died doctors from

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Liberia and Sierra Leone and Guinea who

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have given their lives by trying to help

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others live and they were wearing

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personal protective equipment they were

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wearing the PPEs that they were told Don

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and I think that that's it's more than

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it in fact the nurse from Scotland who

543
00:26:58,430 --> 00:26:57,300
got sick you remember that story that

544
00:27:02,750 --> 00:26:58,440
was in the news a couple of weeks ago

545
00:27:05,540 --> 00:27:02,760
yes uh meharry or something like anyway

546
00:27:08,030 --> 00:27:05,550
sorry I butcher her name but she is now

547
00:27:10,910 --> 00:27:08,040
well praise the Lord and she got it

548
00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:10,920
because they all went to church before

549
00:27:15,290 --> 00:27:13,380
they flew home and when they were in

550
00:27:19,810 --> 00:27:15,300
church they were hugging the villagers

551
00:27:23,570 --> 00:27:19,820
to say goodbye oh goodness and she she

552
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,580
she picked it up that way why was she

553
00:27:29,890 --> 00:27:25,200
wasn't I'm betting that the villagers

554
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:29,900
were not bleeding on her right right

555
00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:32,850
well obviously she wouldn't be hugging

556
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:38,390
them if that was the case i was invited

557
00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:41,370
by one of the the men and my prominent

558
00:27:49,790 --> 00:27:44,460
communit one of the prominent men in my

559
00:27:54,890 --> 00:27:49,800
community to go to sierra leone this was

560
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:54,900
going to be his third trip over and he

561
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:56,700
was taking a group of people with him

562
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:00,720
and this was last summer right before

563
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:04,770
the big outbreak and matter of fact that

564
00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:06,330
travel restrictions weren't even in

565
00:28:13,910 --> 00:28:09,870
place and it hadn't even hit Sierra

566
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:13,920
Leone yet so but the word was yeah it

567
00:28:19,660 --> 00:28:16,170
wasn't in the news yet yeah yeah it just

568
00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:19,670
wasn't in the news well correct and and

569
00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:25,830
you know I I ended up not going a number

570
00:28:35,030 --> 00:28:30,470
of reasons but but when they got back

571
00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:35,040
from Sierra Leone debt that whole thing

572
00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:36,870
swept through the village they were in

573
00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:40,800
days after they left and people that

574
00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:42,260
they had

575
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:45,470
visited with and and seen in the village

576
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:48,110
for the time they were there within a

577
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:50,690
matter of days when the epidemic came

578
00:28:58,810 --> 00:28:54,710
through died they got out just within

579
00:29:01,900 --> 00:28:58,820
days it's and and of course you know

580
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:01,910
they didn't get you know any infections

581
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:05,530
but they were very very close to that

582
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:09,200
doing missionary work over there and wow

583
00:29:14,830 --> 00:29:12,890
what a you know what a well please thank

584
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,840
your friend for on our behalf because

585
00:29:19,180 --> 00:29:16,880
you know the people who go to the front

586
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:19,190
lines on the mission field whether there

587
00:29:24,940 --> 00:29:21,410
is serving there as a medical person or

588
00:29:27,250 --> 00:29:24,950
or in any capacity this is this is

589
00:29:28,750 --> 00:29:27,260
incredible I have so much admiration for

590
00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:28,760
people like that and you know it was

591
00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:32,990
cool that you wanted to go well you know

592
00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:37,400
people people need to understand that

593
00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:40,790
there are things that we need to reach

594
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:46,670
out to and in and people you know people

595
00:29:50,530 --> 00:29:48,590
go to these places and they do these

596
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:50,540
things and they're on the front lines

597
00:29:57,910 --> 00:29:55,810
and and what a what an amazing amazing

598
00:30:00,040 --> 00:29:57,920
thing that they do for doing that

599
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:00,050
they're giving back to give life to

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00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,530
others we're going to stop for the break

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here to epic voyages radio i am your

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00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:02,420
host maverick for tonight's show with

680
00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:05,720
our special guest sharon gilbert and her

681
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:09,350
husband Derek Gilbert author of Ebola

682
00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:11,169
and the fourth Horseman of the

683
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:15,400
Apocalypse what a interesting

684
00:34:22,419 --> 00:34:17,990
interesting title of this book if you

685
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:22,429
have not checked out Sharon's website

686
00:34:28,380 --> 00:34:24,169
you need to go over to Sharon Kay

687
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:28,390
Gilbert calm Sharon Kate Gilbert calm or

688
00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:34,490
go to triple w Gilbert house org make

689
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:36,710
sure you check out that book it is

690
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:41,330
really really a fascinating fascinating

691
00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:44,210
topic here Ebola in the fourth Horseman

692
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:49,580
of the Apocalypse okay so guys we were

693
00:34:58,060 --> 00:34:52,010
we were talking about Ebola and what all

694
00:34:59,950 --> 00:34:58,070
this stuff is and why this is important

695
00:35:03,670 --> 00:34:59,960
to us because obviously this is a very

696
00:35:09,370 --> 00:35:03,680
deadly virus we all know that from from

697
00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:09,380
2014 how deadly this thing can be and we

698
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:10,940
talked about why you call it the blood

699
00:35:16,930 --> 00:35:13,850
serban serpent because of how it looks

700
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:16,940
it looks like you know serpents or worms

701
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:19,610
that are kind of folded you know around

702
00:35:24,850 --> 00:35:23,210
itself and and it's it's I can see that

703
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:24,860
from the cover of your book now

704
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:30,170
looking at that and again I did the the

705
00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:34,970
book cover is tremendous and I know that

706
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:39,560
the content is is fabulous because of

707
00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:42,560
your knowledge on the subject I want to

708
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:48,260
be able to understand why Ebola you know

709
00:35:52,510 --> 00:35:49,610
all of a sudden we're hearing about

710
00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:52,520
Ebola and I think it's quite interesting

711
00:36:00,520 --> 00:35:55,700
when we look at the history that you

712
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:00,530
gave about these other plagues that it

713
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:02,420
could have been Ebola we just don't know

714
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:04,730
but it's quite interesting why do you

715
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:09,410
call the virus a biological machine what

716
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:12,290
is that about well but viruses are

717
00:36:17,470 --> 00:36:15,290
really interesting things and i'll call

718
00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:17,480
them a thing because you know they're

719
00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:20,420
not alive and they're not dead they

720
00:36:27,460 --> 00:36:23,000
there they're not a biological form in

721
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:27,470
the way that bacterium is a virus is

722
00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:31,970
more like nanotechnology and it's only

723
00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:34,820
purpose is to infect your cell and make

724
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:37,220
copies of itself and then to find

725
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:38,960
another cell and make that cell make

726
00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:42,050
copies of itself it doesn't ingest you

727
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:46,670
it doesn't use you for food it's not

728
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:51,890
alive and yet it propagates it really is

729
00:36:58,570 --> 00:36:55,310
like current nanotechnology and because

730
00:37:00,730 --> 00:36:58,580
i study bible prophecy i believe that if

731
00:37:02,350 --> 00:37:00,740
you take a look at the book of Genesis

732
00:37:05,470 --> 00:37:02,360
and you've talked about this I'm sure

733
00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:05,480
when the in Genesis 6 it talks about how

734
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:07,790
the sons of God came into the daughters

735
00:37:13,450 --> 00:37:10,010
of men and there were giants in the land

736
00:37:15,730 --> 00:37:13,460
this is a telling of a story where what

737
00:37:18,070 --> 00:37:15,740
we see it in a lot of mythology stories

738
00:37:20,410 --> 00:37:18,080
of supernatural beings that mate with

739
00:37:23,370 --> 00:37:20,420
human women and produce these demigods

740
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:23,380
these you know like Hercules and and

741
00:37:27,820 --> 00:37:26,090
gosh name some more um yeah Vanessa

742
00:37:30,850 --> 00:37:27,830
Lowen yeah well they're called a

743
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:30,860
Nephilim exactly in Hebrew and these

744
00:37:36,190 --> 00:37:34,430
entities were selling and the fallen

745
00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:36,200
angels that were doing and copulated

746
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:38,520
with the men they were with them well

747
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:40,530
and with the men but they were breeding

748
00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:43,380
with the women they were selling

749
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:47,100
knowledge for favors and some of the

750
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:49,890
knowledge I believe may have been early

751
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:52,260
nanotechnology because what's really new

752
00:37:56,690 --> 00:37:54,290
and exciting and seems like the coolest

753
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:56,700
kind of science that they never would

754
00:38:01,520 --> 00:37:59,040
have thought of back in the old Bible

755
00:38:04,070 --> 00:38:01,530
days well honestly that's been around

756
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:04,080
for as long as the world's been around

757
00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:06,690
because the supernatural realm has

758
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:10,470
secrets the we've not yet unlocked so I

759
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:13,680
believe that these are leftover machines

760
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:16,440
biological machines that were intended

761
00:38:24,170 --> 00:38:20,160
to alter human DNA which they do viruses

762
00:38:26,090 --> 00:38:24,180
often times will alter our DNA and they

763
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:26,100
will shut off genes they will turn on

764
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:28,290
genes they will insert pieces of

765
00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:31,200
themselves into our genes and some of

766
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,270
those cause cancer some of those cause

767
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:35,520
other diseases does that replicate the

768
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:38,610
RNA and then inject itself into a

769
00:38:44,810 --> 00:38:41,850
healthy cell and then and then turns

770
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:44,820
that cell into a duplicate copy of

771
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:46,710
itself sometimes that's how it works

772
00:38:52,210 --> 00:38:48,810
that you're described retrovirus inand

773
00:38:55,370 --> 00:38:52,220
those work they're like little syringes

774
00:38:57,230 --> 00:38:55,380
eject little bits of RNA canned and

775
00:38:59,570 --> 00:38:57,240
other proteins in there to force your

776
00:39:02,000 --> 00:38:59,580
body your certs are yourselves to be

777
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:02,010
little copy machines right I know HIV is

778
00:39:07,610 --> 00:39:05,130
a retrograde virus is Isabella rut ro

779
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:07,620
retrograde as well it know it but it is

780
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:09,720
an RNA virus and there are only seven

781
00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:12,450
jeans and that little bitty thing seven

782
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:16,680
little jeans can you imagine seven jeans

783
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:19,280
that's it and it manages to do the

784
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:21,690
destruction it just totally destroys the

785
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:23,970
human body right and it does it very

786
00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:27,330
quickly to that I mean that has got to

787
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:31,560
be I mean going at lightning speed at

788
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,630
the cellular level I saw thing that

789
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:36,320
Harvard produced a couple of years ago

790
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:40,610
their graduate students did that a 3d

791
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:43,050
graphic of what it looks like on the

792
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:46,530
inside of your cell and they did this

793
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:49,710
whole animation of the inside of the

794
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:50,970
cell

795
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:53,130
and they take you in through the 3d

796
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:54,930
world of this where you're just kind of

797
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,530
zooming past Golgi bodies and and you

798
00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:00,720
know all these things that are happening

799
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:05,190
in the cell and it is stunning it's

800
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:08,010
stunning what what is happening in there

801
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:10,650
because everything is interconnected in

802
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:13,680
that cell there's it's like a like a

803
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:17,310
second precision watch it's like a city

804
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:20,130
isn't it oh it is everything has this

805
00:40:25,850 --> 00:40:21,720
intricate detail debate they get

806
00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:25,860
specific jobs that they do and and if

807
00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:28,230
you remove one of those components out

808
00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:31,320
of the cell the whole thing dies you

809
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:34,680
can't you can't have you know you can't

810
00:40:40,690 --> 00:40:38,010
have one thing only has to be every

811
00:40:44,210 --> 00:40:40,700
intricate part working together and

812
00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:44,220
symphony for the thing to Knut to

813
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:47,940
continue to to be alive and and it's it

814
00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:51,650
when i saw that i was just fascinated

815
00:40:57,110 --> 00:40:54,780
with with the little world in the cell

816
00:41:00,040 --> 00:40:57,120
that that's going on and the some

817
00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:00,050
trillion cells in your body that we have

818
00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:02,760
and to think that these these viruses

819
00:41:07,790 --> 00:41:04,950
are going in and it's like the Borg of

820
00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:07,800
the Star Trek it miss ya you will be

821
00:41:12,130 --> 00:41:09,990
assimilated you know because it goes in

822
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:12,140
and just boom and I mean it assimilates

823
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:18,570
healthy cells okay so why is this why is

824
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:23,940
this such a concern for us other than

825
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:27,510
than being infectious and other than you

826
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:31,410
know people you know dining multitudes

827
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,280
from this but what is this tie into

828
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:38,160
prophecy or does it well it does i

829
00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:40,320
believe in the book of Revelation in

830
00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:45,230
chapter 6 we begin a seals that are

831
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:49,260
removed from a legal document by Jesus

832
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:52,050
Christ he opens each seal and with the

833
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:55,050
first seal a rider on a white horse is

834
00:42:00,110 --> 00:41:57,570
released and the second seal a writer on

835
00:42:02,030 --> 00:42:00,120
red horse is released on the third seal

836
00:42:04,010 --> 00:42:02,040
a rider on a black horse is released in

837
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:04,020
the fourth seal we call the fourth

838
00:42:06,980 --> 00:42:04,710
course

839
00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:06,990
of the apocalypse he's on this sort of

840
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:10,680
sickly green horse that and he's not

841
00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:13,920
alone and he is the only rider given a

842
00:42:17,570 --> 00:42:15,750
name the other three riders you don't

843
00:42:20,270 --> 00:42:17,580
know what their names are but that

844
00:42:25,339 --> 00:42:20,280
fourth writer you're told his name and

845
00:42:29,650 --> 00:42:25,349
it's Thanatos Thanatos is the son of nyx

846
00:42:32,780 --> 00:42:29,660
the son of night and reduce the sky and

847
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:32,790
he has a twin brother named hypnosis and

848
00:42:39,950 --> 00:42:35,310
the two of them work for the guy that's

849
00:42:42,530 --> 00:42:39,960
riding with him Hades hell these two

850
00:42:46,570 --> 00:42:42,540
guys bring people who have passed away

851
00:42:50,089 --> 00:42:46,580
either through sleep or through a

852
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:50,099
horrifying death to their meant their

853
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:53,730
their master Hades so this Thanatos the

854
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:56,010
rider on this sickly green horse is

855
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:00,960
given permission to kill 25% of humanity

856
00:43:05,780 --> 00:43:03,150
that's why we have to worry about it

857
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:05,790
because it I believe in Bible prophecy I

858
00:43:10,089 --> 00:43:08,130
believe we're in the last days and this

859
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:10,099
is a plague that if it's not Ebola

860
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:14,310
something is coming down the pike so the

861
00:43:20,359 --> 00:43:16,530
writer the fourth horse is specifically

862
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:20,369
named this is in revelation 6 mm-hmm and

863
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:22,890
Bible prophecy where the seals are

864
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:25,920
opened and there's writers that are

865
00:43:30,410 --> 00:43:28,200
released there's there's there's the

866
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:30,420
four horsemen right these are natural

867
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:33,660
entities yeah right and and and and and

868
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:35,700
so the first three get released but this

869
00:43:44,359 --> 00:43:38,970
fourth one is specifically named yeah

870
00:43:47,390 --> 00:43:44,369
and his job is to spread disease is josh

871
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:47,400
is gonna kill 25% of you man was gonna

872
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,920
kill 25% of humanity globally globally

873
00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:54,480
25% of everybody who's alive at the time

874
00:44:02,300 --> 00:43:57,000
this writer gets to start writing is

875
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:02,310
killed with probably a disease because

876
00:44:09,290 --> 00:44:04,530
it's described as theory on which means

877
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:09,300
tiny beasts and wow the thing and I had

878
00:44:13,150 --> 00:44:11,310
the opportunity to see did this

879
00:44:16,010 --> 00:44:13,160
presentation when she delivered it in

880
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:16,020
Colorado and you know she was concerned

881
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:18,330
with reading reading the notes in her

882
00:44:20,670 --> 00:44:18,880
script

883
00:44:22,650 --> 00:44:20,680
and you know making sure that the slides

884
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:22,660
advanced properly I was able to sit in

885
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:23,680
the back of the room and watch the

886
00:44:27,089 --> 00:44:24,970
reactions of people as they were

887
00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:27,099
listening to her presentation and

888
00:44:31,049 --> 00:44:28,750
watching the video on the square

889
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:31,059
watching the slides on the presentation

890
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:33,130
and there were people there just sitting

891
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:34,839
there with notepads and just scribbling

892
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:36,910
notes as fast as they can the thing that

893
00:44:40,829 --> 00:44:38,740
fascinates me about this is that there

894
00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:40,839
are few places in Scripture in the Bible

895
00:44:46,009 --> 00:44:44,200
where names that are familiar to anyone

896
00:44:49,940 --> 00:44:46,019
who studied any bit of Greek mythology

897
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:49,950
that are familiar with and some of those

898
00:44:55,819 --> 00:44:53,650
Greek gods are named by the writers of

899
00:45:00,059 --> 00:44:55,829
the new testament as literal entities

900
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:00,069
Hades be one okay Thanatos being another

901
00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:02,529
mm-hmm Zeus of course appears and we're

902
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:04,900
also told that the king of the the

903
00:45:08,910 --> 00:45:06,490
entities that come out of the pit in

904
00:45:13,019 --> 00:45:08,920
Revelation 9 verse 11 is a polygon which

905
00:45:17,069 --> 00:45:13,029
is Apollo sure sure yeah so you know

906
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:17,079
again just fascinating stuff now it

907
00:45:21,150 --> 00:45:19,569
could be you could make a case I suppose

908
00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:21,160
that the the writers of the New

909
00:45:26,009 --> 00:45:22,660
Testament were writing things in terms

910
00:45:28,499 --> 00:45:26,019
that they're the Hellenized audience

911
00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:28,509
would reader would understand because

912
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:30,670
the Greek influence in that part of the

913
00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:33,609
world was was extensive most I mean the

914
00:45:37,799 --> 00:45:35,950
New Testament was written in Greek most

915
00:45:39,690 --> 00:45:37,809
that was the that was like English today

916
00:45:41,849 --> 00:45:39,700
if you wanted to do business around the

917
00:45:44,279 --> 00:45:41,859
world you knew Creek so the New

918
00:45:46,349 --> 00:45:44,289
Testament was written in Greek but you

919
00:45:49,309 --> 00:45:46,359
know taking it that step further in

920
00:45:52,620 --> 00:45:49,319
describing the rider on the horse as a

921
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:52,630
being might just be more than a figure

922
00:45:58,799 --> 00:45:55,599
of speech they could well be referring

923
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:58,809
to literal evil entities results of

924
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:01,359
death that that will someday ride forth

925
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:05,890
to to commit genocide and his and his

926
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:09,130
job is to literally unleash hell on

927
00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:14,410
earth exam it Thanatos four riders those

928
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:17,740
four riders now I'm see I started down

929
00:46:21,749 --> 00:46:19,450
this road about a year and a half ago

930
00:46:23,789 --> 00:46:21,759
when I decided that I wanted to learn

931
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:23,799
more about the four riders and I was

932
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:25,450
sort of in my mind thinking I will

933
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,250
eventually write a book about this I'm

934
00:46:31,650 --> 00:46:28,960
convinced that the four riders are

935
00:46:32,339 --> 00:46:31,660
released to bring about the New World

936
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:32,349
Order

937
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:35,920
that we keep hearing about now with that

938
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:38,079
how would that happen sharing in Bible

939
00:46:47,249 --> 00:46:42,880
prophecy so so let's say that that okay

940
00:46:50,130 --> 00:46:47,259
we're we're we're in the we're in the

941
00:46:51,870 --> 00:46:50,140
revelation period okay and and and we're

942
00:46:53,729 --> 00:46:51,880
just going to jump right into it we're

943
00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:53,739
going to skip all the other stuff and

944
00:47:01,920 --> 00:46:56,470
we're gonna go right into revelation the

945
00:47:04,829 --> 00:47:01,930
this thing is happening and I tell I

946
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:04,839
guess lead us up to the point of the

947
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:07,839
fourth horseman and and and what's

948
00:47:12,210 --> 00:47:10,329
occurring in Bible prophecy well the

949
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:12,220
four riders even though they're released

950
00:47:18,089 --> 00:47:15,130
sequentially they may want be Boom Boom

951
00:47:20,359 --> 00:47:18,099
Boom Boom really quickly so to us it

952
00:47:24,479 --> 00:47:20,369
would appear to be almost simultaneously

953
00:47:26,999 --> 00:47:24,489
the first writer is the ruler he is

954
00:47:29,339 --> 00:47:27,009
probably the Antichrist because he is

955
00:47:31,650 --> 00:47:29,349
riding on a white horse mimicking the

956
00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:31,660
arrival later on of Jesus Christ who was

957
00:47:35,969 --> 00:47:33,700
on a white horse when he comes at the

958
00:47:38,099 --> 00:47:35,979
end of the tribulation period this is

959
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:38,109
beginning of the Tribulation Period day

960
00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:40,960
one that rider on the white horse is

961
00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:42,940
released with the first seal the seconds

962
00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:44,950
and he's given a crown which means the

963
00:47:50,609 --> 00:47:47,950
Lord God Almighty says okay you get

964
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:50,619
authority of the earth from now on but

965
00:47:55,709 --> 00:47:52,960
of course it's only for seven years the

966
00:47:58,890 --> 00:47:55,719
second rider is on a red horse this is

967
00:48:00,930 --> 00:47:58,900
the god of war this is the guy who's out

968
00:48:02,489 --> 00:48:00,940
there if you don't follow the new king

969
00:48:03,779 --> 00:48:02,499
of the world I'm going to make you

970
00:48:06,209 --> 00:48:03,789
follow the new king of the world

971
00:48:08,819 --> 00:48:06,219
countries that don't agree with this new

972
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:08,829
world wide leader hey problem solved

973
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:10,930
I'll go in we'll start a war will clean

974
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:14,249
it up the third rider comes in he is

975
00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:17,170
riding on a black horse and he's

976
00:48:23,249 --> 00:48:19,960
bringing in an economic shift to the

977
00:48:26,279 --> 00:48:23,259
world he's carrying a scales with him it

978
00:48:29,549 --> 00:48:26,289
implies not just economy and finances

979
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:29,559
the trading markets it also implies a

980
00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:32,529
yoke this is the word that's translated

981
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:36,940
as scales also means yoke so this is to

982
00:48:43,229 --> 00:48:39,910
enslave everybody in an economic system

983
00:48:45,380 --> 00:48:43,239
the New World Order set forth by these

984
00:48:47,570 --> 00:48:45,390
first three writers and what's

985
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:47,580
result of it if you don't follow the New

986
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:50,730
World Order you die and if you do follow

987
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:52,890
the New World Order you might dive into

988
00:48:57,110 --> 00:48:55,200
because if you follow conspiracy

989
00:48:59,180 --> 00:48:57,120
theories at all and that's one of the

990
00:49:02,240 --> 00:48:59,190
reasons that Derek and I do our podcast

991
00:49:04,310 --> 00:49:02,250
PID radio which stands for peering into

992
00:49:05,930 --> 00:49:04,320
darkness which essentially means we're

993
00:49:07,310 --> 00:49:05,940
looking at the the enemy and trying to

994
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:07,320
figure out what's going on right we're

995
00:49:11,630 --> 00:49:10,110
spies if you look at the conspiracy

996
00:49:13,820 --> 00:49:11,640
theories that are out there about the

997
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:13,830
new world order one of the main tenets

998
00:49:19,550 --> 00:49:16,130
of it is to reduce the world population

999
00:49:22,930 --> 00:49:19,560
to a more manageable size but they want

1000
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:22,940
to take it down by ninety percent Oh

1001
00:49:27,770 --> 00:49:25,500
reduce it down to ten percent of what it

1002
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:27,780
currently is okay that reminds me of the

1003
00:49:35,060 --> 00:49:29,610
Georgia what is that the Georgia

1004
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:35,070
Guidestones yes and in on that they have

1005
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:37,280
all these things I've never been there

1006
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:39,330
but I understand they had a population

1007
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:43,170
given of some what was it is the world

1008
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:45,450
population by ninety percent is what it

1009
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:47,400
says it's a little difficult for us to

1010
00:49:52,070 --> 00:49:50,910
get an idea of how massive this is going

1011
00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:52,080
to be I was just doing some research

1012
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:54,660
here on something Sharon studied and in

1013
00:49:57,890 --> 00:49:56,370
fact some of this research that she's

1014
00:49:59,330 --> 00:49:57,900
done is kind of informed at the book on

1015
00:50:02,500 --> 00:49:59,340
Ebola that she's written the nineteen

1016
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:02,510
eighteen spanish flu pandemic killed

1017
00:50:08,030 --> 00:50:04,740
between 50 and 100 million people

1018
00:50:09,470 --> 00:50:08,040
depending on because they've been in

1019
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:09,480
certain places of the world because of

1020
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:10,890
World War one they weren't able to get

1021
00:50:15,710 --> 00:50:13,710
accurate statistics it's estimated that

1022
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:15,720
500 million people of the world were

1023
00:50:24,290 --> 00:50:20,910
infected so you've got a mortality rate

1024
00:50:27,530 --> 00:50:24,300
of 52 well ten to twenty percent on this

1025
00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:27,540
but Ebola the the mortality rate runs as

1026
00:50:32,750 --> 00:50:30,060
high as 75 to 90 percent well if you

1027
00:50:35,180 --> 00:50:32,760
read the official reports of the Spanish

1028
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:35,190
flu they will say that it was about five

1029
00:50:43,970 --> 00:50:41,040
percent and wide yeah 55 % & + x 5

1030
00:50:46,670 --> 00:50:43,980
because twenty-five percent of the world

1031
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,680
is going to die when rider number four

1032
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:48,000
hit yeah that was my but that was an

1033
00:50:50,690 --> 00:50:49,290
extremist to say three to five percent

1034
00:50:53,330 --> 00:50:50,700
of the world's population actually died

1035
00:50:55,070 --> 00:50:53,340
for this yeah uh and at that time that

1036
00:50:56,420 --> 00:50:55,080
was considered terrific my grandfather

1037
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:56,430
wrote a number of letters home which I

1038
00:51:00,810 --> 00:50:58,240
have copies of and he signed

1039
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:00,820
them I am feeling fine and in the best

1040
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:03,730
of health your loving son and wondered

1041
00:51:06,930 --> 00:51:05,290
that's kind of an odd way to close a

1042
00:51:08,430 --> 00:51:06,940
letter even at that period of time where

1043
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:08,440
things would say you know you know your

1044
00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:10,570
humble and obedient servant well okay by

1045
00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:12,700
the turn of the 20th century right guys

1046
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:13,960
like my grandfather weren't signing

1047
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:15,070
letters like that but I couldn't fair

1048
00:51:19,170 --> 00:51:17,290
why I am feeling fine in the best of

1049
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:19,180
health every letter and then I realized

1050
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:21,130
he was off in France at the time the

1051
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:23,680
Spanish flu was rampaging around the

1052
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:25,930
world so if I percent of the world the

1053
00:51:31,290 --> 00:51:28,210
deadliest one of the deadliest natural

1054
00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:31,300
disasters in all of history yeah like

1055
00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:32,950
Sharon said multiply that by a factor of

1056
00:51:37,950 --> 00:51:36,280
five and that's what this writer is

1057
00:51:39,090 --> 00:51:37,960
going to have permission to do now

1058
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:39,100
interestingly isn't it interesting

1059
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:41,050
though that those who behind the Georgia

1060
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:42,910
Guidestones and those world elites who

1061
00:51:46,170 --> 00:51:44,050
are convinced there are just too many

1062
00:51:48,359 --> 00:51:46,180
useless eaters here want to take that

1063
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:48,369
twenty-five percent permission that will

1064
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:51,010
be granted to the rider on the white the

1065
00:51:55,380 --> 00:51:52,900
pale horse and scaling and they want to

1066
00:51:58,740 --> 00:51:55,390
scale it up to ninety percent yeah all

1067
00:52:03,480 --> 00:51:58,750
right well and it makes you wonder the

1068
00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:03,490
motive behind that it I wonder if

1069
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:08,230
there's an orchestrated event with you

1070
00:52:12,450 --> 00:52:10,570
know behind the scenes developing the

1071
00:52:16,530 --> 00:52:12,460
new world order I know we've heard about

1072
00:52:22,010 --> 00:52:16,540
this for years it and and not that

1073
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:22,020
they're not that they're trying to

1074
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:26,410
fulfill Bible prophecy by any means but

1075
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:29,890
but it sure is interesting how these

1076
00:52:36,359 --> 00:52:32,890
things that we see that have come to

1077
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:36,369
pass come to pass in the past and that

1078
00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:39,130
we see currently and the things that are

1079
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:41,080
yet to come in the future how it really

1080
00:52:48,660 --> 00:52:44,800
dovetails in to what's happening with

1081
00:52:50,010 --> 00:52:48,670
the New World Order yeah yeah there are

1082
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:50,020
a lot of things going on out there and

1083
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:53,200
as I say Ebola may not be the the

1084
00:52:57,359 --> 00:52:55,090
pandemic that actually takes out

1085
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:57,369
twenty-five percent of the world take

1086
00:53:00,090 --> 00:52:58,570
for instance take a look at the

1087
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:00,100
influenza virus that's been going around

1088
00:53:05,609 --> 00:53:02,410
the last bill four or five months it's

1089
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:05,619
h3n2 it's a seasonal virus but we've had

1090
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:08,500
a major problem with people who are

1091
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:11,280
vaccinated still getting sick and

1092
00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:13,920
fact some some I think it's like 45 46

1093
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:18,390
kids have died from this it's it's

1094
00:53:23,090 --> 00:53:20,760
choking the hospitals they don't know

1095
00:53:26,330 --> 00:53:23,100
what to do it's a CDC has announced look

1096
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:26,340
we know that we planned the the virus

1097
00:53:30,980 --> 00:53:29,010
which is it's a trivalent virus so it's

1098
00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:30,990
protecting you against two types of

1099
00:53:35,210 --> 00:53:33,720
influenza A and one type of B and and

1100
00:53:37,580 --> 00:53:35,220
the influenza A that everybody is

1101
00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:37,590
getting its it's radically did well ok

1102
00:53:43,490 --> 00:53:39,390
it's 45-percent different from the one

1103
00:53:44,900 --> 00:53:43,500
that we we made it a plan to make it fun

1104
00:53:46,910 --> 00:53:44,910
I mean they're just stumbling over

1105
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,920
themselves but at the same time at the

1106
00:53:51,140 --> 00:53:49,200
end of this major conference they say

1107
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:51,150
but go out and get your flu shots anyway

1108
00:53:56,570 --> 00:53:54,090
mm-hmm it was yeah but go get it anyway

1109
00:53:59,150 --> 00:53:56,580
well I know in my area that that the flu

1110
00:54:02,080 --> 00:53:59,160
shot was not effective because it was

1111
00:54:04,850 --> 00:54:02,090
just the wrong strain no they tried

1112
00:54:07,730 --> 00:54:04,860
saying but if you really read what

1113
00:54:10,250 --> 00:54:07,740
they've written it's the right strain

1114
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:10,260
but they said it's undergone what they

1115
00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:12,720
are calling antigenic drift they are

1116
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:15,900
wrong if it's moved that quickly to a

1117
00:54:21,590 --> 00:54:18,960
forty-five percent difference it's it's

1118
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:21,600
a little faster than drift it may even

1119
00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:24,480
be Anna Jeff antigenic shift which is a

1120
00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:28,680
really quick change in the virus is laid

1121
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:32,520
out this is a virus that if it continues

1122
00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:34,770
to mutate could become really

1123
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,520
problematic so I mean it can turn on a

1124
00:54:43,850 --> 00:54:41,040
dime net quickly well we're all familiar

1125
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:43,860
with can suddenly either re-emerge or

1126
00:54:48,610 --> 00:54:46,410
become really really you know infective

1127
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:48,620
and dangerous and you're talking

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00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:52,170
mutational shifts mm let's hope it

1129
00:54:59,630 --> 00:54:56,510
doesn't become another spanish influenza

1130
00:55:01,580 --> 00:54:59,640
pandemic exactly existing thing about

1131
00:55:03,740 --> 00:55:01,590
spanish flu i don't know how much you

1132
00:55:06,290 --> 00:55:03,750
have read about that but that also had a

1133
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:06,300
hemorrhagic component because if you

1134
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:08,250
read the notes of the doctors from the

1135
00:55:12,890 --> 00:55:10,170
time period very often they're

1136
00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:12,900
describing a bloody effluent in the

1137
00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:15,960
lungs that this it's almost like the

1138
00:55:22,550 --> 00:55:19,020
lungs were bleeding out have you heard a

1139
00:55:23,470 --> 00:55:22,560
and Derek you to a book i read years ago

1140
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:23,480
cup

1141
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:27,440
it was called behold a pale horse by

1142
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:29,990
william cooper and you read there you

1143
00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:32,810
know what I think I gosht i read that i

1144
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:34,760
remember downloading and i found it

1145
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:36,890
online somewhere it's i think it was

1146
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:39,680
from back in the early 90s william

1147
00:55:46,690 --> 00:55:42,050
cooper i think was a former naval

1148
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:46,700
intelligence guy yeah and and he had

1149
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:50,450
some inside information and he wrote a

1150
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:52,690
book called behold a pale horse and i

1151
00:55:58,750 --> 00:55:55,490
think he even said look if something

1152
00:56:01,000 --> 00:55:58,760
happens to me you know that i didn't die

1153
00:56:04,510 --> 00:56:01,010
of natural causes and you know and I

1154
00:56:06,849 --> 00:56:04,520
understand that he he died kind of

1155
00:56:10,690 --> 00:56:06,859
mysteriously that that in his book he

1156
00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:10,700
talks about the New World Order and how

1157
00:56:17,620 --> 00:56:13,750
all these events are coming to pass yeah

1158
00:56:20,650 --> 00:56:17,630
within within the circles in the shadows

1159
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:20,660
of the government um didn't he died in a

1160
00:56:26,650 --> 00:56:24,170
shootout with the police I don't guy i'm

1161
00:56:31,090 --> 00:56:26,660
thinking of lemons I don't know how he

1162
00:56:33,580 --> 00:56:31,100
died i'm really not sure but but you

1163
00:56:37,540 --> 00:56:33,590
know he was a big proponent of the New

1164
00:56:39,780 --> 00:56:37,550
World Order of Police being being

1165
00:56:42,490 --> 00:56:39,790
outspoken against it and and and

1166
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:42,500
bringing you know to light the subject

1167
00:56:47,470 --> 00:56:45,530
of this is what's happening at least

1168
00:56:51,970 --> 00:56:47,480
with his inner circles that he was

1169
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:51,980
involved in and you know I've got that

1170
00:56:56,290 --> 00:56:53,510
book somewhere in my library I need to

1171
00:56:58,990 --> 00:56:56,300
pull it out and read it along with yours

1172
00:57:01,599 --> 00:56:59,000
because things have happened now since

1173
00:57:06,580 --> 00:57:01,609
91 that that's really come a lot further

1174
00:57:08,859 --> 00:57:06,590
than that do you think it just a in the

1175
00:57:10,540 --> 00:57:08,869
next minute do you think we we have

1176
00:57:14,260 --> 00:57:10,550
really advanced in that cause of the New

1177
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:14,270
World Order you do in other words do I

1178
00:57:19,060 --> 00:57:16,250
think that it could happen any minute

1179
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:19,070
the the seals opening up yes yeah

1180
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:20,450
actually I think we're really close to

1181
00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:21,770
that I think the New World Order has

1182
00:57:27,820 --> 00:57:23,660
changed a lot if you take a look at

1183
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:27,830
geopolitics since nine eleven the world

1184
00:57:35,470 --> 00:57:31,130
has radically changed I mean radically

1185
00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:35,480
changed the push to democratize other

1186
00:57:38,450 --> 00:57:36,750
nations in

1187
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:38,460
Eastern Europe and in the Middle East

1188
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:41,370
and in South America this is something

1189
00:57:44,690 --> 00:57:43,110
our country is doing whether the

1190
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:44,700
American citizen is aware of it or not

1191
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:47,040
and it's done all under the guise of

1192
00:57:52,930 --> 00:57:49,770
we've got to protect the world for

1193
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:52,940
instance in Ukraine we are installing

1194
00:57:58,670 --> 00:57:55,410
anti-missile batteries that are that are

1195
00:58:01,640 --> 00:57:58,680
pointed toward Russia imagine that and

1196
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:01,650
and we have a massive civil war taking

1197
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:03,890
place in ukraine russia wants it

1198
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Ukrainians want it for themselves and I

1199
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:07,410
think they like for everybody to get out

1200
00:58:12,380 --> 00:58:10,410
and we want it and Ukraine at one time

1201
00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:12,390
and it's even if you look at the news

1202
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:14,190
you'll see that Russia is sort of

1203
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,770
holding Europe hostage over at saying

1204
00:58:21,350 --> 00:58:18,720
okay we're not going to run our gas prom

1205
00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:21,360
gas through there anymore sorry we're

1206
00:58:23,810 --> 00:58:22,380
just going to send it down through

1207
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:23,820
Turkey now because they're playing ball

1208
00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:25,680
you know there are so many things going

1209
00:58:30,980 --> 00:58:28,350
on in the world that I think could very

1210
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:30,990
quickly if a world leader emerged if

1211
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:33,330
Ryder number one came on the scene with

1212
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:36,810
answers to all the problems many people

1213
00:58:42,290 --> 00:58:39,450
in the world would just go finally and

1214
00:58:44,090 --> 00:58:42,300
they'd actually may even say hey you

1215
00:58:46,460 --> 00:58:44,100
know what Jesus Christ finally made it

1216
00:58:47,780 --> 00:58:46,470
back Sharon hold it right there we're at

1217
00:58:49,970 --> 00:58:47,790
the top of the hour we're going to go to

1218
00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:49,980
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1219
00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:53,790
Sharon Gilbert and the Ebola and the

1220
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:55,230
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maverick for tonight's show with my

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01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:26,099
special guest sharon and Derek Gilbert

1286
01:02:32,780 --> 01:02:28,890
on Ebola and the fourth Horseman of the

1287
01:02:37,790 --> 01:02:32,790
Apocalypse we have been talking this

1288
01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:37,800
last hour about Ebola and now about the

1289
01:02:44,030 --> 01:02:41,430
fourth Horseman of revelation 6 and how

1290
01:02:45,950 --> 01:02:44,040
this thing is going to roll out and how

1291
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:45,960
the New World Order plays into all this

1292
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:50,640
very fascinating let me ask you we've

1293
01:02:53,690 --> 01:02:52,079
been talking about the fourth Horseman

1294
01:02:56,420 --> 01:02:53,700
do you think the other three horsemen

1295
01:03:01,309 --> 01:02:56,430
have have started to ride yet i know

1296
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:01,319
this is in a spiritual context regarding

1297
01:03:06,620 --> 01:03:04,290
you know bible prophecy but do you think

1298
01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:06,630
those first three have gone out yet well

1299
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:09,480
before I answer that let me make sure

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01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:11,609
that everybody listening right now if

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01:03:16,790 --> 01:03:13,470
you're in front of a computer go to

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facebook.com slash finding Noah film and

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01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:21,710
like that page oh she's to her she's

1304
01:03:31,790 --> 01:03:29,250
well you like the page okay now they're

1305
01:03:33,980 --> 01:03:31,800
like the page actually there are some

1306
01:03:37,460 --> 01:03:33,990
people who believe that the writers

1307
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:37,470
began writing in the first century now I

1308
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:39,839
i can tell you why they believe that and

1309
01:03:47,660 --> 01:03:43,410
one of the reasons is that when John who

1310
01:03:49,550 --> 01:03:47,670
writes the book John the Apostle John he

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01:03:52,370 --> 01:03:49,560
is on the Isle of Patmos and he's very

1312
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:52,380
elderly he survived being boiled alive

1313
01:03:59,359 --> 01:03:56,010
he's he's uh just barely hanging on he's

1314
01:04:01,849 --> 01:03:59,369
in his 80s I think and he is called to

1315
01:04:02,530 --> 01:04:01,859
heaven he sees a vision on earth and

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01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:02,540
then he is call

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01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:05,450
to heaven and standing in heaven before

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01:04:11,950 --> 01:04:09,530
the throne of God he sees a being who is

1319
01:04:14,110 --> 01:04:11,960
described looking very much like Jesus

1320
01:04:16,420 --> 01:04:14,120
Christ who looks like a lamb who has

1321
01:04:19,060 --> 01:04:16,430
been slain and and there's a scroll

1322
01:04:21,250 --> 01:04:19,070
that's been presented and everyone asks

1323
01:04:23,050 --> 01:04:21,260
well nobody is you know given nobody can

1324
01:04:26,410 --> 01:04:23,060
open this scroll because nobody has the

1325
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:26,420
authority to do so and this lamb appears

1326
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:29,330
and he is the only one so we have this

1327
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:31,370
song this wonderful song of worthy is

1328
01:04:35,980 --> 01:04:33,200
the lamb well there are some who believe

1329
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:35,990
that because we see this vision of Jesus

1330
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:38,690
Christ who appears to have just been

1331
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:41,930
just ascended to the throne which took

1332
01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:44,110
place you know after the resurrection

1333
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:47,060
well after the resurrection 40 days

1334
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:50,240
mmhmm yeah um that he has just seemingly

1335
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:53,570
arrived that the riders that are sent

1336
01:04:58,690 --> 01:04:55,850
forth when he begins to open this scroll

1337
01:05:01,030 --> 01:04:58,700
unsealing them breaking the seals that

1338
01:05:03,310 --> 01:05:01,040
those writers began their ride in the

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01:05:06,490 --> 01:05:03,320
first century I can understand the

1340
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:06,500
reasoning for that but when you talk

1341
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:10,930
about God's view of time it's always now

1342
01:05:17,050 --> 01:05:13,760
God is always now that's why he's called

1343
01:05:19,090 --> 01:05:17,060
the great I am present tense Alpha and

1344
01:05:20,650 --> 01:05:19,100
Omega it's all the same to him he is

1345
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:20,660
outside of our time-space continuum

1346
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:23,570
where we're locked into time into what

1347
01:05:28,510 --> 01:05:25,970
we perceive as a line it's all now to

1348
01:05:31,150 --> 01:05:28,520
him so you know you can't necessarily

1349
01:05:33,340 --> 01:05:31,160
say because he appears to have arrived

1350
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:33,350
in the first century AD that to the

1351
01:05:37,450 --> 01:05:35,090
throne of God it was the first century

1352
01:05:40,090 --> 01:05:37,460
AD on earth there are others who say

1353
01:05:43,630 --> 01:05:40,100
that the writers began their ride in the

1354
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:43,640
20th century then the 22 of the 20th

1355
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:46,610
century early 1900s that at the time the

1356
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:49,730
world war one started spanish flu world

1357
01:05:55,110 --> 01:05:51,890
war one russian revolution that this

1358
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:55,120
major upheaval in geopolitics and

1359
01:06:01,600 --> 01:05:58,010
releasing of deadly diseases like

1360
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:01,610
smallpox and polio and and the spanish

1361
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:03,200
flu of course that we talked about and

1362
01:06:09,310 --> 01:06:06,110
and other kinds of swine flu that came

1363
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:09,320
about in the later years that these were

1364
01:06:16,190 --> 01:06:11,210
actually indications that it began in

1365
01:06:18,589 --> 01:06:16,200
the 20th century i honestly don't know

1366
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:18,599
a one hundred percent which of those is

1367
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:21,690
the correct interpretation I lean toward

1368
01:06:27,260 --> 01:06:24,000
the belief that they have not yet begun

1369
01:06:30,910 --> 01:06:27,270
to ride I pray they are not writing yet

1370
01:06:34,790 --> 01:06:30,920
because in my understanding of of how to

1371
01:06:37,849 --> 01:06:34,800
discern the scriptures it is a future

1372
01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:37,859
event for me and a lot of things would

1373
01:06:42,109 --> 01:06:39,599
already be happening I think before

1374
01:06:43,849 --> 01:06:42,119
those writers are loosed well exactly

1375
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:43,859
about that night that we would settle

1376
01:06:48,380 --> 01:06:46,290
but Jesus Christ when he's asked how

1377
01:06:50,180 --> 01:06:48,390
will we know that the end of the age is

1378
01:06:52,430 --> 01:06:50,190
here well the end of the age is when

1379
01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:52,440
Jesus comes back it's when everything

1380
01:06:57,170 --> 01:06:54,720
turns and then and the end of the epic

1381
01:06:59,450 --> 01:06:57,180
that the the disciples were asking when

1382
01:07:01,490 --> 01:06:59,460
does this world sees to belong to the

1383
01:07:04,550 --> 01:07:01,500
enemy and you come in Laraine here on

1384
01:07:06,290 --> 01:07:04,560
earth they'd gotten enough of what he

1385
01:07:10,010 --> 01:07:06,300
was teaching that they knew to ask the

1386
01:07:11,060 --> 01:07:10,020
question yes sir he gave was well you

1387
01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:11,070
know what they're going to be a lot of

1388
01:07:14,089 --> 01:07:12,329
signs and you can watch for these

1389
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:14,099
there's not one sign but there are a lot

1390
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:16,079
of the world they will give you a clue

1391
01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:18,420
that you're in that season in the last

1392
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:21,720
days and he said it'll get these signs

1393
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:23,730
will increase and become more frequent

1394
01:07:28,460 --> 01:07:26,250
as you get closer to the actual event he

1395
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:28,470
compared it to birth pangs and in my

1396
01:07:34,579 --> 01:07:31,680
book I talk about how if you've ever had

1397
01:07:36,589 --> 01:07:34,589
a you know loved one who's you know

1398
01:07:38,780 --> 01:07:36,599
loved loved one who's born a baby or

1399
01:07:41,569 --> 01:07:38,790
ladies out there if you've ever had your

1400
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,579
child you know that it sometimes when

1401
01:07:45,710 --> 01:07:43,440
you get close to that due date you get

1402
01:07:47,660 --> 01:07:45,720
these contractions that feel for all the

1403
01:07:49,579 --> 01:07:47,670
world like it's the babies here any

1404
01:07:51,319 --> 01:07:49,589
minute you get to the hospital the

1405
01:07:54,410 --> 01:07:51,329
doctor just looks a and says oh those

1406
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:54,420
are Braxton Hicks you know no baby yet

1407
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:56,640
go home right and you don't have a baby

1408
01:08:00,620 --> 01:07:58,410
for another five or six weeks but

1409
01:08:03,230 --> 01:08:00,630
Braxton Hicks start hitting sometimes

1410
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:03,240
six seven weeks before the baby actually

1411
01:08:09,020 --> 01:08:06,720
arrives I think that what we're seeing

1412
01:08:11,180 --> 01:08:09,030
now with an increase in earthquakes the

1413
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:11,190
geo political upheaval that the

1414
01:08:17,599 --> 01:08:13,710
pandemics that are starting to hit more

1415
01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:17,609
and more news of this wave of economic

1416
01:08:23,450 --> 01:08:20,520
whoa and that what appear to be echoes

1417
01:08:25,190 --> 01:08:23,460
of future echoes of the riders I think

1418
01:08:26,900 --> 01:08:25,200
these are Braxton Hicks and you're

1419
01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:26,910
getting closer together and they're

1420
01:08:32,750 --> 01:08:30,120
getting harder interesting and that

1421
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:32,760
may explain what we're seeing with the

1422
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:37,440
outbreak back in 2014 and it just seems

1423
01:08:43,340 --> 01:08:40,290
like you know just you know you hear

1424
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,350
this and this thing comes along and you

1425
01:08:47,270 --> 01:08:45,120
know I certainly wasn't keeping up with

1426
01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:47,280
Ebola before 2014 like you were sharing

1427
01:08:54,410 --> 01:08:49,710
but you knew about this and it was on

1428
01:08:56,420 --> 01:08:54,420
your radar and you had been you know you

1429
01:09:01,010 --> 01:08:56,430
know watching for these signs for the

1430
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:01,020
last 10 years where I haven't been my my

1431
01:09:06,830 --> 01:09:03,510
focus has maybe been you know and other

1432
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:06,840
things and but it takes people like you

1433
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:12,330
and in there to to to capture what's

1434
01:09:17,270 --> 01:09:14,160
going on in the present and and and

1435
01:09:19,970 --> 01:09:17,280
sound the alarm and be the watchman on

1436
01:09:21,830 --> 01:09:19,980
the wall and say hey you know this is

1437
01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:21,840
this is what we're seeing and I'm so

1438
01:09:25,730 --> 01:09:24,150
glad that you you know put all this

1439
01:09:30,230 --> 01:09:25,740
together and wrote your book on this

1440
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:30,240
because we need to have answers and and

1441
01:09:35,060 --> 01:09:33,570
why this dovetails in with with what's

1442
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:35,070
happening with what we're seeing with

1443
01:09:38,810 --> 01:09:37,170
the New World Order now I know that a

1444
01:09:43,580 --> 01:09:38,820
lot of people say well that's a

1445
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:43,590
conspiracy but yet we see things I think

1446
01:09:51,770 --> 01:09:46,650
in just in in everyday life that that

1447
01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:51,780
that points to that something is coming

1448
01:10:00,680 --> 01:09:58,020
that is beyond our grasp and and I think

1449
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:00,690
when it heads we're going to know it let

1450
01:10:05,690 --> 01:10:01,890
me give up the phone number real quick

1451
01:10:11,630 --> 01:10:05,700
before I forget it's one triple 8 9 19 2

1452
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:11,640
3 5 5 1 triple 8 9 192 355 call in we

1453
01:10:21,020 --> 01:10:17,600
have this hour with Sharon Gilbert and

1454
01:10:25,610 --> 01:10:21,030
Derek and we are going to be taking your

1455
01:10:27,170 --> 01:10:25,620
calls for both of them on Ebola on the

1456
01:10:29,900 --> 01:10:27,180
fourth Horseman revelation the

1457
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:29,910
apocalypse the new world order any and

1458
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:34,110
all this is your chance to call in for

1459
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:36,110
our special guest tonight one triple 8 9

1460
01:10:43,670 --> 01:10:42,330
192 355 okay so if you call in we'll get

1461
01:10:46,730 --> 01:10:43,680
you on the air or you

1462
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:46,740
can go to the chat room at inception

1463
01:10:54,410 --> 01:10:50,640
radio network com and will get you will

1464
01:10:57,950 --> 01:10:54,420
get your question on the air so it's

1465
01:11:01,370 --> 01:10:57,960
very interesting because we see that

1466
01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:01,380
this thing is happening and we talked

1467
01:11:05,090 --> 01:11:03,060
about that the other horsemen could

1468
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:05,100
probably have written but we just don't

1469
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:08,850
know yet for sure do you think it's

1470
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:12,810
possible that we're going to actually

1471
01:11:24,020 --> 01:11:18,450
see Sharon the the Antichrist come on

1472
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:24,030
the scene um I believe that he is alive

1473
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:27,210
now I believe he will emerge in my

1474
01:11:33,890 --> 01:11:30,110
lifetime we're told in the Bible that

1475
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:33,900
depending on how you translate the world

1476
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:37,650
at word epist asya that we either are

1477
01:11:43,670 --> 01:11:40,800
going to recognize him or he will be

1478
01:11:45,890 --> 01:11:43,680
revealed right after we leave and I'm

1479
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:45,900
gonna let Derek expand on that okay

1480
01:11:51,650 --> 01:11:49,010
please there are differences of opinion

1481
01:11:54,110 --> 01:11:51,660
about the translation of certain verses

1482
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,120
and I just as an overview let me say

1483
01:12:01,310 --> 01:11:56,880
that I think this is a topic that is

1484
01:12:04,340 --> 01:12:01,320
deliberately somewhat vague um God knew

1485
01:12:05,780 --> 01:12:04,350
that there you know third of the angels

1486
01:12:07,790 --> 01:12:05,790
rebelled against it we know that from

1487
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:07,800
the book of Revelation Satan convinced a

1488
01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:09,570
third of the angels to join him in a

1489
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:12,060
rebellion against God and those remain

1490
01:12:19,130 --> 01:12:17,850
faithful to him God inspired humans

1491
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:19,140
through the work of the Holy Spirit to

1492
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:22,530
write the 66 books of the Bible 40

1493
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:25,040
different authors who were spread over

1494
01:12:30,230 --> 01:12:27,930
what 1500 years of time between the time

1495
01:12:33,740 --> 01:12:30,240
of Moses and the first century authors

1496
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:33,750
his jacket is even longer yeah so get

1497
01:12:37,340 --> 01:12:35,850
anywhere 1500 2000 years somewhere in

1498
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:37,350
there into the books that have been

1499
01:12:42,740 --> 01:12:39,120
collected together under the title of

1500
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:42,750
the Bible and the enemy and by that I

1501
01:12:47,660 --> 01:12:44,880
capital e enemy the fallen angels who

1502
01:12:50,900 --> 01:12:47,670
rebelled no scripture a lot better than

1503
01:12:52,370 --> 01:12:50,910
you me or the most learned scholar who

1504
01:12:54,050 --> 01:12:52,380
studied it because they've had a lot

1505
01:12:57,500 --> 01:12:54,060
more time to do it and besides their

1506
01:13:00,819 --> 01:12:57,510
supernatural so I think that God

1507
01:13:04,609 --> 01:13:00,829
his wisdom made things somewhat

1508
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:04,619
difficult to understand for us so that

1509
01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:06,570
the enemy wouldn't be able to fabric it

1510
01:13:09,169 --> 01:13:07,860
was so clear we could understand it

1511
01:13:12,290 --> 01:13:09,179
perfectly the enemy would be able to

1512
01:13:14,990 --> 01:13:12,300
come up with a a wonderful lie a

1513
01:13:17,209 --> 01:13:15,000
fabrication that would be so convincing

1514
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:17,219
we would all be fooled so there are

1515
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:19,679
there been arguments about prophecy that

1516
01:13:24,740 --> 01:13:22,650
are going on for two thousand years and

1517
01:13:26,209 --> 01:13:24,750
even to this day there's no faster way

1518
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:26,219
to get a bunch of otherwise

1519
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:29,610
mild-mannered Christians to argue then

1520
01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:32,010
to just say okay pre mid or post

1521
01:13:36,529 --> 01:13:34,920
referring to the timing of the rapture a

1522
01:13:38,509 --> 01:13:36,539
belief that Christians will be called

1523
01:13:39,649 --> 01:13:38,519
out all believe in the rapture and not

1524
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:39,659
all believe in the rapture there are

1525
01:13:44,209 --> 01:13:42,210
many denominations Roman Catholicism for

1526
01:13:46,669 --> 01:13:44,219
one Lutheran denominations that are all

1527
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:46,679
millennial they don't believe that Jesus

1528
01:13:51,919 --> 01:13:48,449
will literally come back to reign for a

1529
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:51,929
thousand years over the earth which as

1530
01:13:57,620 --> 01:13:53,610
we do in the you know pre-tribulation

1531
01:14:02,299 --> 01:13:57,630
post mid pre-wrath tribulation is

1532
01:14:03,859 --> 01:14:02,309
another belief that is the theory that

1533
01:14:05,779 --> 01:14:03,869
is it is gaining some traction these

1534
01:14:07,279 --> 01:14:05,789
days and I've been saying all this to

1535
01:14:08,330 --> 01:14:07,289
stall while I open up the Bible and got

1536
01:14:10,910 --> 01:14:08,340
the right verse out of your 2nd

1537
01:14:13,549 --> 01:14:10,920
Thessalonians 2 3 a verse that is

1538
01:14:14,629 --> 01:14:13,559
pointed to by those who say that we are

1539
01:14:16,430 --> 01:14:14,639
going to be out of here before the

1540
01:14:18,140 --> 01:14:16,440
Antichrist arrives on the scene let no

1541
01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:18,150
one deceive you in any way for that day

1542
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:21,840
will not come meaning the day of the

1543
01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:23,250
rapture when we're all done of the

1544
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:25,289
tribulation right onto unless the

1545
01:14:29,509 --> 01:14:27,210
rebellion comes first and rebellion

1546
01:14:32,089 --> 01:14:29,519
meaning of falling away from the

1547
01:14:34,250 --> 01:14:32,099
teachings of Jesus by people who call

1548
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:34,260
themselves Christian and the man of

1549
01:14:38,959 --> 01:14:36,690
lawlessness is revealed but the word

1550
01:14:41,660 --> 01:14:38,969
translated there is a pistachio Apple

1551
01:14:43,549 --> 01:14:41,670
Stasi oh yeah the word translated into

1552
01:14:47,169 --> 01:14:43,559
rebellion is a pistachio which is

1553
01:14:50,689 --> 01:14:47,179
sometimes just you know translator

1554
01:14:52,879 --> 01:14:50,699
transliterated as apostasy right now

1555
01:14:54,799 --> 01:14:52,889
interestingly the King James Version was

1556
01:14:56,540 --> 01:14:54,809
the first version english version of the

1557
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:56,550
valuable that translated that word as

1558
01:15:02,060 --> 01:14:58,650
apostasy and we understand apostasy to

1559
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:02,070
mean today disagreeing with what has

1560
01:15:05,299 --> 01:15:03,510
been officially taught now call it a

1561
01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:05,309
falling away sometimes right and

1562
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:07,199
previous translations of the Bible

1563
01:15:10,660 --> 01:15:08,730
actually translated that word to mean

1564
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:10,670
more like a a a

1565
01:15:15,250 --> 01:15:12,710
coming apart or a setting aside or

1566
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:15,260
moving away from in other words it

1567
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:16,850
actually means the Rope the rapture

1568
01:15:21,459 --> 01:15:18,650
right above belief that Jesus will

1569
01:15:23,380 --> 01:15:21,469
literally well anyone is familiar with

1570
01:15:24,580 --> 01:15:23,390
the sort of the left behind theology

1571
01:15:26,110 --> 01:15:24,590
understands what the rapture is you

1572
01:15:28,990 --> 01:15:26,120
basically suddenly book gone in the

1573
01:15:30,340 --> 01:15:29,000
blink of an eye and obviously there's

1574
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:30,350
been a lot of disagreements about that

1575
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:32,570
again there are those who believe and

1576
01:15:36,580 --> 01:15:35,449
actually that verse is used both ways

1577
01:15:38,860 --> 01:15:36,590
those who believe that the word

1578
01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:38,870
translated as apostasy or rebellion that

1579
01:15:42,910 --> 01:15:41,750
it means the rapture take that to mean

1580
01:15:45,459 --> 01:15:42,920
that we'll be out of here before the

1581
01:15:46,510 --> 01:15:45,469
Antichrist arrives on the scene there

1582
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:46,520
are those who believe in a

1583
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:48,890
pre-tribulation rapture I think we're

1584
01:15:52,330 --> 01:15:50,210
not going to see the Antichrist who

1585
01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:52,340
disagree with translating that word as

1586
01:15:56,169 --> 01:15:54,350
rebellion or apostasy and then there are

1587
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:56,179
those who think we're going to be here

1588
01:16:00,760 --> 01:15:58,130
at least for part of the tribulation who

1589
01:16:02,590 --> 01:16:00,770
say see that day won't come until the

1590
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:02,600
man of sin has been revealed so it all

1591
01:16:06,729 --> 01:16:04,489
boils down to if you have ten Christians

1592
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:06,739
in the same room you have 15 means right

1593
01:16:14,050 --> 01:16:09,290
yes that's right you you really will

1594
01:16:16,270 --> 01:16:14,060
want you but what can we do now is there

1595
01:16:19,689 --> 01:16:16,280
anything we can do to stop this i mean

1596
01:16:22,990 --> 01:16:19,699
it once this thing hits is it just going

1597
01:16:25,060 --> 01:16:23,000
to be it it's just gonna it's just going

1598
01:16:26,590 --> 01:16:25,070
to roll right on through i know the

1599
01:16:30,370 --> 01:16:26,600
scripture talks about the shadow of

1600
01:16:31,930 --> 01:16:30,380
death I wonder if this is going to be

1601
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:31,940
one of those things or just when when

1602
01:16:37,390 --> 01:16:34,489
this thing happens and it gets rolled

1603
01:16:40,090 --> 01:16:37,400
out in full force there's nothing anyone

1604
01:16:42,820 --> 01:16:40,100
can do if you're you know if you're here

1605
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:42,830
experiencing that is that pretty much

1606
01:16:48,220 --> 01:16:46,130
true you can turn to God which is why

1607
01:16:50,169 --> 01:16:48,230
these events are taking place during

1608
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:50,179
that we call it the Tribulation Period

1609
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:53,210
we call it the tribulation week what it

1610
01:16:58,330 --> 01:16:55,449
amounts to is it's seven years and

1611
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:58,340
during the first three and a half years

1612
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:00,320
the first half of that seven-year week

1613
01:17:06,010 --> 01:17:02,090
called a week because it's just a group

1614
01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:06,020
of sentence that period will be

1615
01:17:12,250 --> 01:17:08,270
essentially the new world order set up

1616
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:12,260
in the middle of it this Prince this

1617
01:17:18,939 --> 01:17:15,110
Antichrist this king of the world the

1618
01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:18,949
first writer he will present himself as

1619
01:17:24,569 --> 01:17:22,420
God and that's what's called the

1620
01:17:26,579 --> 01:17:24,579
abomination of desolation

1621
01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:26,589
that probably will take place in

1622
01:17:32,399 --> 01:17:30,550
Jerusalem when that happens a lot of

1623
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:32,409
people in the world were suddenly go oh

1624
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:35,530
my um this was in the Bible I remember

1625
01:17:40,889 --> 01:17:38,530
this and they may praise the Lord may

1626
01:17:42,719 --> 01:17:40,899
turn to him at that time the first three

1627
01:17:47,069 --> 01:17:42,729
and a half years are times of pressure

1628
01:17:48,869 --> 01:17:47,079
and only when we humans who want to rely

1629
01:17:51,869 --> 01:17:48,879
on ourselves and not believe in anything

1630
01:17:55,109 --> 01:17:51,879
outside of ourselves where we can do it

1631
01:17:56,699 --> 01:17:55,119
we're smart we can we got science well

1632
01:18:00,119 --> 01:17:56,709
those three and a half years are a

1633
01:18:03,569 --> 01:18:00,129
wake-up call to to those who are still

1634
01:18:06,359 --> 01:18:03,579
here that you need to turn to God once

1635
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:06,369
the the midpoint comes there there will

1636
01:18:12,779 --> 01:18:09,209
be a time shortly after that when

1637
01:18:14,549 --> 01:18:12,789
scripture says it's closed that

1638
01:18:18,419 --> 01:18:14,559
opportunity to accept Christ as your

1639
01:18:21,290 --> 01:18:18,429
Savior is now gone and after that it's

1640
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:21,300
just judgment you want to make this

1641
01:18:31,109 --> 01:18:24,449
choice and go ahead girl this happens

1642
01:18:35,609 --> 01:18:31,119
and this is all 22 I guess in the in the

1643
01:18:41,879 --> 01:18:35,619
in the larger perspective when you're

1644
01:18:44,369 --> 01:18:41,889
talking about prophecy this is 22 this

1645
01:18:46,379 --> 01:18:44,379
is that last week of judgment that last

1646
01:18:49,139 --> 01:18:46,389
week of years of judgment on Israel

1647
01:18:52,290 --> 01:18:49,149
right and and this is good to get the

1648
01:18:55,549 --> 01:18:52,300
nation to to to repent and wake up and

1649
01:18:58,889 --> 01:18:55,559
say hey this is you know the end is

1650
01:19:02,969 --> 01:18:58,899
imminent and and the end of the age is

1651
01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:02,979
imminent and and and you know the second

1652
01:19:08,399 --> 01:19:06,729
Advent yeah is about to happen yeah it's

1653
01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:08,409
sort of the equivalent of coming up and

1654
01:19:12,689 --> 01:19:10,510
slapping somebody and saying wake up

1655
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:12,699
don't you understand what you're doing

1656
01:19:15,629 --> 01:19:14,530
you're sinking into quicksand and

1657
01:19:16,859 --> 01:19:15,639
there's a pattern of this all through

1658
01:19:21,029 --> 01:19:16,869
the Bible you see through the Old

1659
01:19:25,469 --> 01:19:21,039
Testament that the Hebrews in Israel and

1660
01:19:27,899 --> 01:19:25,479
Judah the chosen people would

1661
01:19:30,629 --> 01:19:27,909
consistently get get fat and happy and

1662
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:30,639
would begin to follow the the false gods

1663
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:32,530
of their neighbors and God would use a

1664
01:19:39,189 --> 01:19:37,130
foreign invader usually or some sort of

1665
01:19:41,919 --> 01:19:39,199
a famine maybe a drought or something

1666
01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:41,929
but often the the invasions of their

1667
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:44,239
neighbors the Moab or a man or Edom or

1668
01:19:50,260 --> 01:19:48,250
Babylon or Egypt or a Syria or Syria or

1669
01:19:51,790 --> 01:19:50,270
you know somebody would come in from the

1670
01:19:53,919 --> 01:19:51,800
outside and oppress them and then they

1671
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:53,929
would repent and call out to God and he

1672
01:19:58,209 --> 01:19:55,090
would intervene on their behalf

1673
01:19:59,290 --> 01:19:58,219
sometimes in a spectacular way sometimes

1674
01:20:01,180 --> 01:19:59,300
he would send a single man as a

1675
01:20:03,490 --> 01:20:01,190
deliverer or sing or sometimes a woman

1676
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:03,500
as a deliverer who would lead them to

1677
01:20:07,450 --> 01:20:05,360
victory over their enemies and give them

1678
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:07,460
peace for a while and then after a while

1679
01:20:15,850 --> 01:20:11,290
of peace and prosperity as humans are

1680
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:15,860
well just tend to do you forget where

1681
01:20:21,310 --> 01:20:17,810
the good things in your life come from

1682
01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:21,320
you think that you created them that you

1683
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:23,510
earned them that somehow you are

1684
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:26,090
responsible for the good things and you

1685
01:20:29,260 --> 01:20:27,920
turn away from it from God this is a

1686
01:20:30,939 --> 01:20:29,270
pattern that happens over and over and

1687
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:30,949
over in the Old Testament you see it and

1688
01:20:34,270 --> 01:20:32,570
after a while you know you read through

1689
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:34,280
the Old Testament you start to think why

1690
01:20:40,689 --> 01:20:37,850
are these people so stupid until you

1691
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:40,699
have very nice Severin yeah very life

1692
01:20:46,540 --> 01:20:44,210
and realize yeah I'm not so very

1693
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:46,550
different animal or not modern-day

1694
01:20:51,459 --> 01:20:49,040
America is very much the same way let me

1695
01:20:53,169 --> 01:20:51,469
ask you this well first I got a question

1696
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:53,179
in the chat room I need to ask and then

1697
01:20:56,919 --> 01:20:55,250
I'm going to ask you my question so

1698
01:20:58,899 --> 01:20:56,929
here's the here's the question from the

1699
01:21:01,000 --> 01:20:58,909
chat room so either one of you my big

1700
01:21:02,919 --> 01:21:01,010
question is why did Jesus say he was

1701
01:21:05,950 --> 01:21:02,929
here to save and open the door to his

1702
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:05,960
father's world what was the problem with

1703
01:21:12,250 --> 01:21:09,530
the souls on earth before well you know

1704
01:21:17,620 --> 01:21:12,260
that's a really really good question and

1705
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:17,630
it's it in the Old Testament there are

1706
01:21:23,260 --> 01:21:20,810
people who follow God's commandments two

1707
01:21:24,780 --> 01:21:23,270
covenants and and the way it's often

1708
01:21:29,229 --> 01:21:24,790
expressed is that they were looking

1709
01:21:32,169 --> 01:21:29,239
forward to the salvation of Jesus Christ

1710
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:32,179
on the cross by following the models by

1711
01:21:37,149 --> 01:21:35,570
trusting in God for the sacrifices that

1712
01:21:39,820 --> 01:21:37,159
were taking place anything they asked

1713
01:21:41,620 --> 01:21:39,830
him that he asked the people in the old

1714
01:21:44,410 --> 01:21:41,630
testament to do they would either say

1715
01:21:46,660 --> 01:21:44,420
yes or no if they said yes and trusted

1716
01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:46,670
in him and Abraham is a wonderful

1717
01:21:50,620 --> 01:21:48,440
example he's listed in the book of

1718
01:21:52,689 --> 01:21:50,630
Hebrews which is often called the

1719
01:21:54,910 --> 01:21:52,699
eleventh chapter Hebrews is often called

1720
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:54,920
the book the chapter of faith if you're

1721
01:21:59,229 --> 01:21:56,480
in there then you had great faith in the

1722
01:22:00,879 --> 01:21:59,239
Old Testament Abraham is in there and so

1723
01:22:02,879 --> 01:22:00,889
it's a lot believe it or not a lot of

1724
01:22:06,220 --> 01:22:02,889
people might think he's not but he is

1725
01:22:09,220 --> 01:22:06,230
Abraham trusted for that that son even

1726
01:22:12,340 --> 01:22:09,230
though Abraham was 99 years old when

1727
01:22:15,399 --> 01:22:12,350
Isaac was finally born he trusted him in

1728
01:22:16,780 --> 01:22:15,409
him for years and years he went when God

1729
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:16,790
said I want you to leave the country

1730
01:22:21,390 --> 01:22:19,280
imagine if God came up to you today and

1731
01:22:23,890 --> 01:22:21,400
he said I want you to move out of texas

1732
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:23,900
i'm gonna i'm not i'm not going to tell

1733
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:25,130
you where I want you to go i just i'm

1734
01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:27,050
going to tell you to travel until I tell

1735
01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:28,880
you stomach just start driving yeah just

1736
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:30,260
start driving actually in fact just

1737
01:22:34,780 --> 01:22:32,960
start walking and and you trust in him

1738
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:34,790
to provide everything you're going to

1739
01:22:40,570 --> 01:22:37,250
need along the way that's a really hard

1740
01:22:42,550 --> 01:22:40,580
decision to make Abraham did that so in

1741
01:22:45,250 --> 01:22:42,560
the old testament they looked forward to

1742
01:22:47,379 --> 01:22:45,260
Christ through all of these in the

1743
01:22:50,919 --> 01:22:47,389
imagery that they were given by God by

1744
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:50,929
trusting in him those after Jesus Christ

1745
01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:53,120
we look back on it and it's easy for us

1746
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:54,710
to see what all that imagery in the Old

1747
01:22:59,530 --> 01:22:57,290
Testament was about now because we know

1748
01:23:03,669 --> 01:22:59,540
that Jesus Christ died once and for all

1749
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:03,679
for all time again God is not subject to

1750
01:23:09,629 --> 01:23:07,130
space-time continuum when Jesus Christ

1751
01:23:12,610 --> 01:23:09,639
paid the price on the cross it was a

1752
01:23:15,310 --> 01:23:12,620
cross-dimensional crossed time whatever

1753
01:23:18,939 --> 01:23:15,320
you want to call it it covered everybody

1754
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:18,949
from the dawn of time to the end of time

1755
01:23:24,459 --> 01:23:20,960
all they have to do is trust in him

1756
01:23:26,910 --> 01:23:24,469
that's it so there was there was there

1757
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:26,920
was the Old Testament the Old Covenant

1758
01:23:35,490 --> 01:23:31,280
which the you know they had to follow

1759
01:23:38,110 --> 01:23:35,500
that net break law pattern that taught

1760
01:23:40,510 --> 01:23:38,120
human sin and taught redemption through

1761
01:23:43,060 --> 01:23:40,520
the shedding blood yeah and if you look

1762
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:43,070
at the Bible even all the way back to

1763
01:23:47,979 --> 01:23:44,570
the garden the shedding of blood was

1764
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:47,989
required to cover cover sin because you

1765
01:23:51,129 --> 01:23:49,370
saw the first thing that God did when

1766
01:23:53,530 --> 01:23:51,139
Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden tree

1767
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:53,540
was he gave them coats of skins to her

1768
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:56,000
whether that skins come from the animals

1769
01:23:59,800 --> 01:23:57,650
don't count that's exactly right

1770
01:24:02,229 --> 01:23:59,810
innocent animal it was killed in order

1771
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:02,239
to cover their sin once Jesus did that

1772
01:24:06,379 --> 01:24:04,050
on the cross there was no longer any

1773
01:24:08,299 --> 01:24:06,389
further need for animal sacrifice the

1774
01:24:13,339 --> 01:24:08,309
shedding of blood is no longer required

1775
01:24:15,410 --> 01:24:13,349
to redeem us from sin for some reason

1776
01:24:17,810 --> 01:24:15,420
that's the way the guide God creatures

1777
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:17,820
that way blood that if you do a word

1778
01:24:21,770 --> 01:24:19,920
search and use some Bible Software do a

1779
01:24:23,689 --> 01:24:21,780
word search for blood some time going

1780
01:24:25,609 --> 01:24:23,699
through the Bible you see how many times

1781
01:24:28,549 --> 01:24:25,619
the word blood appears and how often it

1782
01:24:30,830 --> 01:24:28,559
appears in the context of not shedding

1783
01:24:34,459 --> 01:24:30,840
it how important it is not to shed it

1784
01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:34,469
and when uh when it must be shed in

1785
01:24:38,450 --> 01:24:37,260
exactly how it must be shed human human

1786
01:24:40,580 --> 01:24:38,460
blood in particular there's there's

1787
01:24:42,620 --> 01:24:40,590
something unique about it God in fact

1788
01:24:45,109 --> 01:24:42,630
even told Noah that you shall not shed

1789
01:24:46,850 --> 01:24:45,119
human blood and an animal sorry human

1790
01:24:49,220 --> 01:24:46,860
blood if for every one that sheds human

1791
01:24:51,379 --> 01:24:49,230
blood even if an animal doesn't there

1792
01:24:54,260 --> 01:24:51,389
will be a reckoning so even animals that

1793
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:54,270
shed human blood according to God there

1794
01:24:59,330 --> 01:24:56,730
would be a reckoning required now I did

1795
01:25:01,010 --> 01:24:59,340
the you know you could say well it's

1796
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:01,020
just saying the sanctity of human life

1797
01:25:06,740 --> 01:25:04,290
or whatever yeah maybe but Jesus who

1798
01:25:11,060 --> 01:25:06,750
lived perfectly according to the law of

1799
01:25:12,859 --> 01:25:11,070
Moses lived a sinless life and that's

1800
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:12,869
again through you see that many times in

1801
01:25:17,060 --> 01:25:14,130
the New Testament particularly in the

1802
01:25:20,810 --> 01:25:17,070
book of Hebrews that was why he was able

1803
01:25:22,669 --> 01:25:20,820
to sacrifice himself for everybody He

1804
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:22,679
fulfilled the law he was the only one

1805
01:25:28,910 --> 01:25:24,960
who was able to do it in all of history

1806
01:25:31,879 --> 01:25:28,920
so his sacrifice as the perfect lamb who

1807
01:25:36,169 --> 01:25:31,889
was slain takes away the sins of the

1808
01:25:40,030 --> 01:25:36,179
world and we and we talk about you know

1809
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:40,040
these these these fallen angels that

1810
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:42,449
interjected into the affairs of mankind

1811
01:25:47,450 --> 01:25:45,840
and thwarted the original plan and then

1812
01:25:51,010 --> 01:25:47,460
of course we know that sin was

1813
01:25:54,620 --> 01:25:51,020
introduced but I think the phenomenon is

1814
01:25:57,379 --> 01:25:54,630
that that we have gone from that time to

1815
01:26:00,970 --> 01:25:57,389
this time and then in the future history

1816
01:26:04,700 --> 01:26:00,980
that's yet to come and according to

1817
01:26:08,450 --> 01:26:04,710
Bible prophecy this thing has been laid

1818
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:08,460
out according to the plan that was that

1819
01:26:12,770 --> 01:26:10,530
was established probably from the

1820
01:26:15,530 --> 01:26:12,780
foundation of the world amen this has

1821
01:26:18,110 --> 01:26:15,540
really come to

1822
01:26:20,290 --> 01:26:18,120
one hundred percent and you're saying

1823
01:26:24,290 --> 01:26:20,300
that this fourth horseman of the

1824
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:24,300
apocalypse may be associated with the

1825
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:27,090
Ebola virus whatever this thing is it's

1826
01:26:33,530 --> 01:26:30,330
going to kill 25 percent of the world's

1827
01:26:34,970 --> 01:26:33,540
population and when this thing hits is

1828
01:26:37,550 --> 01:26:34,980
it's going to be bad that's why they

1829
01:26:41,150 --> 01:26:37,560
call it the tribulation that's it

1830
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:41,160
exactly right there is a pandemic coming

1831
01:26:47,210 --> 01:26:43,770
one day and it may be around the corner

1832
01:26:48,710 --> 01:26:47,220
and you know that the only if you're

1833
01:26:51,470 --> 01:26:48,720
worried about how am I going to survive

1834
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:51,480
the pandemic don't worry about people

1835
01:26:57,110 --> 01:26:54,080
who can kill the body worry about the

1836
01:26:58,820 --> 01:26:57,120
entities the choices you make that will

1837
01:27:00,980 --> 01:26:58,830
result in your soul being destroyed

1838
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:00,990
forever well said well said we're going

1839
01:27:04,580 --> 01:27:03,090
to be at the bottom of the hour here

1840
01:27:07,490 --> 01:27:04,590
which means we're going to a break so

1841
01:27:10,670 --> 01:27:07,500
this is the last half hour with our

1842
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:10,680
special guest sharon and Derek Gilbert

1843
01:27:14,180 --> 01:27:12,690
so stay with us we'll be right back

1844
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:14,190
after this short break you're listening

1845
01:27:34,859 --> 01:27:18,770
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1846
01:27:39,970 --> 01:27:38,049
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of our past and why are they important

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to our future learn more at Aaron

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hello I'm Pat upskirt inviting you to

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tune into epic voyages every Monday

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evening at 8pm central 9pm eastern right

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here on in section radio network to find

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out more about epic and how you can

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and welcome back here to epic voyages

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radio i am your host maverick for

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tonight's excellent show with my special

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guest sharon and Derek Gilbert on their

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book Ebola and the fourth Horseman of

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the Apocalypse well it is her book I

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don't mean to jump in incorrectly she

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deserves older she did all your right

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it's Sharon his Sharon's book Sharon

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Gilbert by the way is a multiple author

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of many books and and this is one of the

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latest ones that's just come out Ebola

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in the fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse

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came out November 2014 make sure you go

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to her website is Sharon Kay Gilbert

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calm ok um by the way don't forget to go

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to Facebook and hit the like on finding

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Noah we need three hundred thousand

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likes so I need you to go do that

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alright so we get one last half hour

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here with Sharon and Derek we got I

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don't know probably a good 20 minutes in

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the actual show so call in with your

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question one triple 8 9 19 2 3 5 5 1

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triple 8 9 19 2 3 5 5 and we're talking

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about Ebola the fourth Horseman of the

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Apocalypse the new world order any and

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all Cullen with your question ok so what

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is going on in current events now

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anything with Ebola or anything with

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epidemics or pandemics regarding any of

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this what's happening now you know I am

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so glad you asked that question because

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well as far as Ebola is concerned it

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does seem to be waning in West Africa it

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is mutating and in fact there was a

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scientist today Peter Pio who is one of

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the discoverers of Ebola back in 1976

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he's on record as saying it's mutating

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so much he really worries him he's

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afraid that it will become more virulent

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it will be more effective and and it

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could eventually become a major problem

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in Western nations because of the travel

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but I want to talk about something

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that's not connected to Ebola but

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betting many of your listeners have seen

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the film either the original film of the

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remake the andromeda strain and I bet

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video they're out there going oh yeah

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that is one of the major movies when I

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was first getting involved in in

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microbiology and molecular biology and

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really loving all these tiny things the

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andromeda strain is a story about a

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space virus that takes over and just

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kills just about everybody in a small

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portion in the United States it stopped

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by a program secret program that was set

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up to stop any virus that is so

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dangerous that it threatens to take out

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the entire world population and there's

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a nuclear bomb in this facility

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underground where they're studying the

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virus that the the protocol is that if

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the virus escapes they have to nuke the

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whole site so this there's you know an

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interest in the characters and what's

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going to happen a lot of you know

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dramatic tension but the whole thing

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about this space virus to space seed

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kind of thing i found a story today at

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the express code UK and here is the

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title is this picture a seed

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quote-unquote seed sent to earth by

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aliens scientists discover a mysterious

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organism this organism is a teeny weeny

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globe it looks like a little tiny earth

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hmm it's just the most interesting thing

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it looks like a little bitty frosty

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white glow and it came off of a collar

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that was around Franklin never Frank the

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dog it's smaller than that though oh wow

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here's the thing it's it's got

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biological material on the inside of it

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it's made of titanium titanium and oh

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gosh what's the other metal that's in

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there it I'll find it here in the story

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in a minute it's mainly titanium but in

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an inside biological goo of some kind

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it was brought back to earth by a

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project from the University of

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Birmingham which sends up balloons into

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our stratosphere to collect anything

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that's up there that's exactly what

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happened in the Andromeda Strain they

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had a satellite up there that was there

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intentionally it was a secret project to

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collect any space viruses any space bugs

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that were up there so they could

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actually be used for you know black ops

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up you know secret projects excuse me

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this was discovered just recently by the

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Buckingham Center for astrobiology and

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sorry and now Birmingham bugaboo

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Buckingham and this thing may have there

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they're testing it but scientists who

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believe in panspermia which is the

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theory that aliens seeded earth believe

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that this may actually be part of their

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program what they call directed

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panspermia to and take us to the next

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evolution evolutionary leap in mankind

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that these are all over the place and

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they just happen to catch one so I'm

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it's here to upgrade us or kill us okay

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well we have a color on the line I think

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from michigan area code 231 color are

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you on the air yes i am what's your name

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and where I'm calling from my name is

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john carpenter and i'm calling from

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northern michigan okay Sean thanks for

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calling them what's your question well

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see when I when I read the book of

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revelations I kinda notice it's

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suggesting like layers of time or like

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you know evidently history repeats

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itself is we got to keep dealing with

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this whole thing where people just get

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out of control and ruin it for everybody

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pretty much and that's you know what the

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whole book is tangle about me and well I

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01:38:32,470 --> 01:38:27,710
made some connections between when the

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sixth seal was open and the Blood Moon

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that was in October and also it was a

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smaller Rick I think up account

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ifornia at that time and then there's

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some other reasons why I kind of believe

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01:38:52,330 --> 01:38:50,959
that that had happened in October kind

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01:38:54,850 --> 01:38:52,340
of really hard for me to crew like if

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01:38:58,929 --> 01:38:54,860
you said to trust me on it but my peers

2082
01:39:01,569 --> 01:38:58,939
like we're really happy to deal with all

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01:39:04,509 --> 01:39:01,579
this stuff all at once is kind of what

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01:39:11,229 --> 01:39:04,519
it's looking like and the possibilities

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01:39:17,739 --> 01:39:11,239
of when the next solar eclipse happens

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01:39:20,859 --> 01:39:17,749
some on looking March twentieth um that

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01:39:24,699 --> 01:39:20,869
that may really wait a lot of people up

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01:39:27,459 --> 01:39:24,709
to so what's going on here i think you

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01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:27,469
know maybe it might have something to do

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01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:31,489
with the polar flip of the North Pole

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01:39:37,089 --> 01:39:34,639
and South Pole or I'm not really sure

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01:39:41,379 --> 01:39:37,099
what happened but there is so much added

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01:39:44,889 --> 01:39:41,389
mushy [\h__\h] Sean that is a wonderful

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01:39:47,859 --> 01:39:44,899
observation you're a smart man the there

2095
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:47,869
is a verse in Joel that talks about how

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01:39:52,719 --> 01:39:50,449
the earth reels like a drunkard I say I

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01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:52,729
sorry Isaiah better talks about how like

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01:39:56,949 --> 01:39:55,130
in Joel's er me that talks about how the

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01:39:59,770 --> 01:39:56,959
earth reels like a drunkard and actually

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01:40:02,350 --> 01:39:59,780
tilts on its axis and we are seeing the

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01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:02,360
North Pole starting to slip but we're

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not seeing it real like a drunkard so I

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01:40:11,379 --> 01:40:09,559
think we're again seeing sort of future

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01:40:13,659 --> 01:40:11,389
echoes of something that's coming down

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the pike and you talked about the Blood

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01:40:19,569 --> 01:40:16,729
Moon January fifth of this year was the

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exact center point of the Blood Moon

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tetrad that we've been experiencing over

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the other began in 2014 and is running

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through the end of the beginning of next

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year I think and it's this very rare

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event where all of these blood moons

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happen on Jewish festivals that are very

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01:40:44,799 --> 01:40:41,389
solemn occasions and January fifth was

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01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:44,809
my husband's birthday and and that fell

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01:40:48,759 --> 01:40:46,489
in the exact middle and I bring it up

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01:40:50,409 --> 01:40:48,769
because I saw this online you know

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01:40:51,700 --> 01:40:50,419
saying does anybody realize this is in

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01:40:53,979 --> 01:40:51,710
the exact middle and

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01:40:55,660 --> 01:40:53,989
from January fifth on it seems like all

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of these major events are starting to

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happen in the world either they're

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happening and going faster or I'm paying

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more attention to them I don't know

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01:41:05,229 --> 01:41:02,870
which it is because can't prove it

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01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:05,239
either way but I think it's important

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01:41:10,030 --> 01:41:08,210
that people like you Sean start to read

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01:41:12,910 --> 01:41:10,040
what's out there and you need to just

2129
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:12,920
seek God's guidance on how to interpret

2130
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:15,290
it because the most important thing you

2131
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:18,320
could do right now is really talk to him

2132
01:41:25,209 --> 01:41:20,930
get to know him and read what's in the

2133
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:25,219
word yeah definitely I definitely agree

2134
01:41:31,660 --> 01:41:29,090
with that um you know its history

2135
01:41:35,470 --> 01:41:31,670
history definitely repeats itself and

2136
01:41:37,630 --> 01:41:35,480
these uh the moon phases we're dealing

2137
01:41:38,890 --> 01:41:37,640
with her are definitely important I

2138
01:41:43,140 --> 01:41:38,900
think that's something that really needs

2139
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:43,150
to be looked at yeah every time with you

2140
01:41:48,870 --> 01:41:45,650
absolutely Sean thanks for calling in

2141
01:41:50,770 --> 01:41:48,880
tonight for your with your questions

2142
01:41:52,959 --> 01:41:50,780
Derek what do you think about these

2143
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:52,969
blood moons that Sean was talking about

2144
01:41:57,700 --> 01:41:55,010
and we got one coming up March twentieth

2145
01:41:59,770 --> 01:41:57,710
and then we got another one right coming

2146
01:42:01,330 --> 01:41:59,780
down the pike some with a seller in the

2147
01:42:04,630 --> 01:42:01,340
solar eclipse yeah I think the blood

2148
01:42:06,010 --> 01:42:04,640
moons are April in them September April

2149
01:42:09,610 --> 01:42:06,020
in September and there's a solar eclipse

2150
01:42:13,770 --> 01:42:09,620
one of the air if to look well you know

2151
01:42:16,030 --> 01:42:13,780
III don't know um I i I'm reserving

2152
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:16,040
commitment to it it's what this isn't an

2153
01:42:20,979 --> 01:42:17,930
area that we actually have studied

2154
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:20,989
intensively so I you know yeah we have

2155
01:42:27,959 --> 01:42:22,880
friends that really believe in it right

2156
01:42:30,370 --> 01:42:27,969
and others who say well yeah there they

2157
01:42:32,380 --> 01:42:30,380
occur more frequently that then then

2158
01:42:34,690 --> 01:42:32,390
some would would would like us to

2159
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:34,700
believe or than some make out let's put

2160
01:42:38,440 --> 01:42:36,410
it that way I'm not saying there isn't

2161
01:42:40,540 --> 01:42:38,450
significance to it because the bible

2162
01:42:42,310 --> 01:42:40,550
does tell us to look to the heavens you

2163
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:42,320
know the the lights in the skies that

2164
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:43,730
you know the sun the moon the stars are

2165
01:42:47,979 --> 01:42:45,650
there to mark times and seasoned and

2166
01:42:54,850 --> 01:42:47,989
also for signs exactly so there may be

2167
01:42:57,459 --> 01:42:54,860
some significance to this um but um you

2168
01:42:58,810 --> 01:42:57,469
know it i think the chanson i think the

2169
01:43:02,350 --> 01:42:58,820
only thing we can really do is wait and

2170
01:43:03,940 --> 01:43:02,360
see yeah and try to be prepared is the

2171
01:43:05,530 --> 01:43:03,950
other thing you know just and not just

2172
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:05,540
you know and i'm not talking about

2173
01:43:09,850 --> 01:43:07,970
hoarding freeze-dried foods although

2174
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:09,860
that's not necessarily a bad idea I'm

2175
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:11,330
saying you know you need to be means

2176
01:43:17,500 --> 01:43:16,250
yeah donuts and by the way also a toilet

2177
01:43:19,060 --> 01:43:17,510
paper which we're convinced will be the

2178
01:43:22,510 --> 01:43:19,070
point of the realm when things really

2179
01:43:24,610 --> 01:43:22,520
get out that you can't yeah you can't

2180
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:24,620
wait you know look good go gold is fine

2181
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:26,810
but when stuff really hits the fan guys

2182
01:43:29,860 --> 01:43:28,400
when fluffy that's what you want yeah

2183
01:43:31,690 --> 01:43:29,870
and guys with bigger guns will be there

2184
01:43:33,850 --> 01:43:31,700
to take it from you you can't eat it you

2185
01:43:37,480 --> 01:43:33,860
can't use it in any other way so yeah at

2186
01:43:39,010 --> 01:43:37,490
that point it's not really much use the

2187
01:43:41,050 --> 01:43:39,020
the one thing I would remember about

2188
01:43:43,390 --> 01:43:41,060
that verse though in Revelation where it

2189
01:43:46,300 --> 01:43:43,400
says the the moon the full moon became

2190
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:46,310
like blood you and of course the Sun

2191
01:43:50,650 --> 01:43:48,650
black as sackcloth which would be the

2192
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:50,660
solar eclipse but the other part of that

2193
01:43:56,170 --> 01:43:53,810
verse which is often not remembered that

2194
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:56,180
and the stars of the sky fell to earth

2195
01:43:59,860 --> 01:43:58,010
exactly and I think that's what Shawn

2196
01:44:02,740 --> 01:43:59,870
was talking about the moving out of its

2197
01:44:05,740 --> 01:44:02,750
places that is happening in a very slow

2198
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:05,750
pace 35 miles a year well I mean that's

2199
01:44:10,150 --> 01:44:07,760
slow it's not really like a drunkard but

2200
01:44:14,140 --> 01:44:10,160
it is moving traffic on the freeway in

2201
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:14,150
Los Angeles during rush hour right yeah

2202
01:44:18,010 --> 01:44:16,130
it's faster than historically doesn't

2203
01:44:19,780 --> 01:44:18,020
doesn't these blood moons have something

2204
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:19,790
at least something to do with

2205
01:44:26,020 --> 01:44:21,770
specifically to Israel like something

2206
01:44:28,630 --> 01:44:26,030
significant happens to Israel 1948 1963

2207
01:44:30,430 --> 01:44:28,640
wait supposedly prophetically when it

2208
01:44:32,590 --> 01:44:30,440
happens in the moon it reflects on

2209
01:44:35,050 --> 01:44:32,600
Israel when it happens in the Sun it's

2210
01:44:36,910 --> 01:44:35,060
the rest of the nation's so solar

2211
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:36,920
eclipses of some cool during a solar

2212
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:38,930
eclipse it's a judgment on the nation's

2213
01:44:43,690 --> 01:44:40,850
if something happens in in a lunar

2214
01:44:45,790 --> 01:44:43,700
eclipse it has to do with Israel so that

2215
01:44:46,900 --> 01:44:45,800
that's how I understand yeah so the fact

2216
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,910
that there's going to be a solar eclipse

2217
01:44:51,850 --> 01:44:49,760
in the middle of these next two blood

2218
01:44:53,710 --> 01:44:51,860
moons is quite fascinating well in the

2219
01:44:56,020 --> 01:44:53,720
solar eclipse falls actually on the

2220
01:45:00,940 --> 01:44:56,030
vernal equinox are really close to it so

2221
01:45:03,010 --> 01:45:00,950
that's often a pagan holiday that's a

2222
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:03,020
time when if you look at the

2223
01:45:11,500 --> 01:45:05,810
supernatural realm the veil between them

2224
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:11,510
is thin mmm I know everybody's gone home

2225
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:13,760
what does it mean I don't know but but I

2226
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:16,850
look at the world now like I won't do it

2227
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:18,890
I look at the world in a different way I

2228
01:45:21,550 --> 01:45:19,370
think

2229
01:45:25,930 --> 01:45:21,560
many people do I I try to look at what's

2230
01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:25,940
behind the the human perceptions and try

2231
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:28,490
to figure out what's supernaturally what

2232
01:45:32,770 --> 01:45:30,770
spiritually is taking place behind us

2233
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:32,780
because you know Ephesians 6 12 says

2234
01:45:37,930 --> 01:45:35,690
that we are not wrestling against flesh

2235
01:45:40,750 --> 01:45:37,940
and blood our battle as Christians is

2236
01:45:43,480 --> 01:45:40,760
against a spiritual enemy and you have

2237
01:45:45,940 --> 01:45:43,490
to take that knowledge know you're on a

2238
01:45:49,060 --> 01:45:45,950
battlefield to start with and make sure

2239
01:45:52,330 --> 01:45:49,070
you have on the helmet of salvation you

2240
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:52,340
know the the the gird yourself with

2241
01:45:56,670 --> 01:45:55,250
righteousness and shut yourself with I

2242
01:45:58,990 --> 01:45:56,680
don't have a verse in front of me but

2243
01:46:02,160 --> 01:45:59,000
there's equipment that you have to

2244
01:46:05,110 --> 01:46:02,170
actually put on and you're given one

2245
01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:05,120
sword and it's actually the word of god

2246
01:46:11,260 --> 01:46:09,470
that's your offensive weapon in some my

2247
01:46:16,540 --> 01:46:11,270
mistakes offensive but the truth is

2248
01:46:19,410 --> 01:46:16,550
we're told to stand our battle formation

2249
01:46:24,250 --> 01:46:19,420
is a defensive one not an offensive one

2250
01:46:26,710 --> 01:46:24,260
so we're to defend against a spiritual

2251
01:46:30,010 --> 01:46:26,720
onslaught Jesus says that the church is

2252
01:46:32,500 --> 01:46:30,020
salt and light we're here to you know

2253
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:32,510
shed the light of the gospel into dark

2254
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:35,330
places we're here to preserve salt has a

2255
01:46:40,180 --> 01:46:38,330
preserving a healing quality and there's

2256
01:46:41,740 --> 01:46:40,190
a saying that if the salt still in the

2257
01:46:44,380 --> 01:46:41,750
shaker it's not doing anybody any good

2258
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:44,390
so and if the Jesus himself said that if

2259
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:45,650
the lights under the bushel of you're

2260
01:46:52,810 --> 01:46:49,850
hiding it it's not helping anybody so we

2261
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:52,820
try to live by Ephesians 6 and try to

2262
01:46:57,430 --> 01:46:54,770
remember that our battle is a spiritual

2263
01:47:00,010 --> 01:46:57,440
one and try to shine the light try to

2264
01:47:01,540 --> 01:47:00,020
get salt out there need a Krispy Kreme

2265
01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:01,550
now and then yeah and I what you're

2266
01:47:06,940 --> 01:47:04,880
doing is shining the light on on the

2267
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:06,950
perspective from prophecy about how

2268
01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:10,850
Ebola could be the part of the fourth

2269
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:13,280
horseman and that kills us twenty-five

2270
01:47:19,810 --> 01:47:15,440
percent of the world's population he

2271
01:47:24,220 --> 01:47:19,820
brought up September 11 2001 a little

2272
01:47:30,490 --> 01:47:24,230
bit ago Jonathan Cahn I think he's the

2273
01:47:32,779 --> 01:47:30,500
rabbi who who first broke the the the

2274
01:47:37,789 --> 01:47:32,789
story behind the

2275
01:47:40,429 --> 01:47:37,799
judgments regarding at the Harbinger yes

2276
01:47:43,029 --> 01:47:40,439
thank you those harbingers that came

2277
01:47:46,279 --> 01:47:43,039
down I guess you're familiar with that

2278
01:47:51,529 --> 01:47:46,289
and how all that interconnected with

2279
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:51,539
with September 11th and I've when I

2280
01:47:57,770 --> 01:47:54,449
heard that for the first time I've had

2281
01:48:01,699 --> 01:47:57,780
well I i I'm not too sure about it but

2282
01:48:06,770 --> 01:48:01,709
when I began to see the connections with

2283
01:48:09,109 --> 01:48:06,780
the harbingers then I really became

2284
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:09,119
perplexing for me because it's beyond

2285
01:48:18,829 --> 01:48:15,119
any any one person's ability to put all

2286
01:48:22,129 --> 01:48:18,839
that together what do you know about the

2287
01:48:25,399 --> 01:48:22,139
harbingers do you think that that was

2288
01:48:27,770 --> 01:48:25,409
part of judgment that was coming in on

2289
01:48:29,539 --> 01:48:27,780
the nation and do you think there's

2290
01:48:31,849 --> 01:48:29,549
there's going to be other harbingers

2291
01:48:33,770 --> 01:48:31,859
coming down the pike I think the 911

2292
01:48:35,809 --> 01:48:33,780
event had a lot of occult signatures in

2293
01:48:38,839 --> 01:48:35,819
it showing that this was an event that

2294
01:48:42,349 --> 01:48:38,849
was orchestrated within the spiritual

2295
01:48:45,079 --> 01:48:42,359
realm and felt and and the consequence

2296
01:48:46,609 --> 01:48:45,089
was in our physical realm I think it was

2297
01:48:50,119 --> 01:48:46,619
a clue to those who are paying attention

2298
01:48:54,469 --> 01:48:50,129
that we are just really close to that

2299
01:48:56,270 --> 01:48:54,479
writer number one writing out and it's

2300
01:48:58,489 --> 01:48:56,280
time to the old saying get right with

2301
01:49:00,020 --> 01:48:58,499
God you know used to drive down the road

2302
01:49:03,199 --> 01:49:00,030
back when I was a kid and you'd see all

2303
01:49:06,559 --> 01:49:03,209
these signs and as I get right with God

2304
01:49:09,289 --> 01:49:06,569
and Burma Shave at the a theme but but

2305
01:49:11,089 --> 01:49:09,299
it is time to figure out okay what is my

2306
01:49:14,409 --> 01:49:11,099
relationship with god because you know

2307
01:49:16,399 --> 01:49:14,419
what not one of us has tomorrow promised

2308
01:49:18,619 --> 01:49:16,409
Derek and I may be in a car crash

2309
01:49:20,809 --> 01:49:18,629
tomorrow where else may be hit by plane

2310
01:49:22,819 --> 01:49:20,819
I may suddenly get sick I may have a

2311
01:49:24,379 --> 01:49:22,829
heart attack drop and die you don't know

2312
01:49:28,399 --> 01:49:24,389
that you have tomorrow but you have now

2313
01:49:31,699 --> 01:49:28,409
are use now to get to know God use now

2314
01:49:35,659 --> 01:49:31,709
to talk to him use now to ask him if

2315
01:49:38,839 --> 01:49:35,669
you're real show me he will he will

2316
01:49:41,580 --> 01:49:38,849
answer that you know that's interesting

2317
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:41,590
Sharon that you said that because

2318
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:44,530
um I don't know that I've ever shared

2319
01:49:53,700 --> 01:49:47,770
this on the air but when I was my guess

2320
01:49:58,560 --> 01:49:53,710
I was 20 or 21 I had the same question

2321
01:50:02,729 --> 01:49:58,570
lingering and my mind and for us you

2322
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:02,739
know here I guess on planet earth

2323
01:50:06,510 --> 01:50:04,000
there's there's there's there's

2324
01:50:08,250 --> 01:50:06,520
questions that we have who are we you

2325
01:50:12,359 --> 01:50:08,260
know why am I here how did I get here

2326
01:50:16,169 --> 01:50:12,369
where am I going with all this and um

2327
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:16,179
and it you know for me it it began with

2328
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:19,119
you know what's my purpose what's what's

2329
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:24,010
my destiny but even greater than that is

2330
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:27,730
is this supernatural presence that we

2331
01:50:34,410 --> 01:50:31,090
call God really real and for me that was

2332
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:34,420
a question that I had to ask myself away

2333
01:50:39,839 --> 01:50:37,570
from home away from everything that I

2334
01:50:45,060 --> 01:50:39,849
had been taught in this Western

2335
01:50:48,990 --> 01:50:45,070
Hemisphere of religion and and I had to

2336
01:50:51,089 --> 01:50:49,000
ask the the raw question do I believe

2337
01:50:52,979 --> 01:50:51,099
what I believe because of what I've been

2338
01:50:56,430 --> 01:50:52,989
taught or do I believe what I believe

2339
01:51:00,089 --> 01:50:56,440
because it is real and for me when I

2340
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:00,099
when I asked that question for me it

2341
01:51:10,379 --> 01:51:03,489
became very real in the sense that that

2342
01:51:16,530 --> 01:51:10,389
I've got a an answer that for me was so

2343
01:51:18,839 --> 01:51:16,540
tangible that I knew that that that was

2344
01:51:22,500 --> 01:51:18,849
my answer and so people ask well what

2345
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:22,510
was that well I I was uh I came back

2346
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:24,730
from a party my hair was down to my

2347
01:51:28,979 --> 01:51:27,010
shoulders came back from a party and it

2348
01:51:31,740 --> 01:51:28,989
was probably well I was way past

2349
01:51:38,430 --> 01:51:31,750
midnight i can tell you that and laid

2350
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:38,440
down on the on the bed and not formally

2351
01:51:43,979 --> 01:51:42,130
not anything ritualistic or religiously

2352
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:43,989
i just said i really need to know if

2353
01:51:46,740 --> 01:51:45,310
you're real because if you're not i'm

2354
01:51:50,669 --> 01:51:46,750
going to do my own thing because its way

2355
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:50,679
much funner and i don't have to worry

2356
01:51:58,960 --> 01:51:55,090
about you know about religion anymore or

2357
01:52:01,210 --> 01:51:58,970
is this thing really real in and I just

2358
01:52:04,530 --> 01:52:01,220
kind of said it quietly in my mind and

2359
01:52:07,540 --> 01:52:04,540
when I opened my eyes my room lit up

2360
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:07,550
with a brilliant white radiant light

2361
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:10,400
from floor to ceiling wall to wall no

2362
01:52:18,250 --> 01:52:16,130
shadow no fear and and it lasted for I

2363
01:52:21,820 --> 01:52:18,260
don't know how long 30 seconds a minute

2364
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:21,830
I'm not sure but I set up on the side of

2365
01:52:28,050 --> 01:52:24,320
my bed I said what was that and then

2366
01:52:31,540 --> 01:52:28,060
just quietly on the inside of my heart

2367
01:52:34,300 --> 01:52:31,550
there was a response and it said you

2368
01:52:38,020 --> 01:52:34,310
asked me for a sign and I just gave it

2369
01:52:43,210 --> 01:52:38,030
to you blew me away blew my mind blew me

2370
01:52:45,490 --> 01:52:43,220
away and so yes I think that for for me

2371
01:52:48,430 --> 01:52:45,500
that was that was certainly true and and

2372
01:52:52,660 --> 01:52:48,440
and I know that you know each person has

2373
01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:52,670
to has to you know search their own soul

2374
01:52:58,650 --> 01:52:56,960
for that and to have that you know we're

2375
01:53:02,890 --> 01:52:58,660
getting close to the top of the hour

2376
01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:02,900
Sharon and and there what what what do

2377
01:53:06,460 --> 01:53:04,490
you have going on now tell us how to get

2378
01:53:08,890 --> 01:53:06,470
your book in your website well my

2379
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:08,900
website is Sharon Kay Gilbert calm

2380
01:53:16,510 --> 01:53:11,170
that's Sharon the letter K Gilbert calm

2381
01:53:18,310 --> 01:53:16,520
sha ro n kg ilbe RT you know we are

2382
01:53:20,410 --> 01:53:18,320
getting retina and you can there's a

2383
01:53:22,450 --> 01:53:20,420
link there to go by the book I'd love it

2384
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:22,460
if you buy it but you know what i would

2385
01:53:26,500 --> 01:53:24,050
rather you get to know the Lord that's

2386
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:26,510
what I really want for you Derek and I

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are going to be moving very soon and

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crane Missouri to join Tom Horn and sky

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watch TV and web site there is Skywatch

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tv.com should launch this week but there

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is already a Facebook page there you can

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check out a news items video updates

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we're already producing some things

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science and news updates on a regular

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basis from here with the you're a banker

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yes the temporary bunker before we

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relocate to the permanent studio there

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tom is of course the main behind

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defender publishing which has got a an

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excellent roster of authors and some

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really deep thinkers in the fields of

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theology the supernatural realm and and

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prophecy and

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just some great books that have come out

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of defender publishing here in the last

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few well the last year so the

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supernatural world view by Chris Putnam

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redeemed unredeemable by Donna Howell

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and Tom Horne the forthcoming shiner

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directed by dr. Michael Lake which I I

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tell you is awesome yeah it's a book

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you're going to want to have Antichrist

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Chronicles by terry james and there are

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others that we can you know we can name

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and some very exciting projects that are

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coming up in terms of not only books but

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long-form investigative documentary

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projects so we're really excited to be a

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part of this I'm you know a long time

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broadcaster got started in radio in 1980

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so now I get to go back after 20 years

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of toiling in sales to go back to

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broadcasting but to do it for something

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that I think is really important and so

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I'm just wow perfectly excited so sky

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watch TV com thank you guys for being on

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the show on epic voyages what a

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fascinating topic everybody go get the

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book Ebola in the fourth Horseman of the

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Apocalypse sharing Kate Gilbert and

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Derek Gilbert thank you for coming on

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the show thanks for having us we had a

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cute I'm guys remember in a time of

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universal deceit telling the truth is a

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revolutionary act good night from all of

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us here my producer Joe champion ken

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cherry from epic and Keith Rowland's

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from the Dark Matter radio network from

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the valley of the giants this is epic

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voyages radio and until next time the

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thank you for being with us tonight

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please join us again next Monday evening

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for extraordinary phenomena